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Artifex is offline Artifex
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Hurry up with the patch already I can't wait. I wanna play Rome. (they aren't gonna stink anymore).

This is as it should be for the greatest Empire in History.

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I think India will emerge as a powerful civ. Religious, and commercial, and a perfect GA. I can't wait!

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I think India will emerge as a powerful civ. Religious, and commercial, and a perfect GA. I can't wait!


Persia shall rise! Scientific and Industrious cannot be beat by anyone!

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Egypt kicks everyone's ass! Nothing can beat Industrious and Religious!

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Egypt kicks everyone's ass! Nothing can beat Industrious and Religious!


Other than Industrious and Science. But then again, I'm a builder. I don't go into war

Iskandar Reza is offline Iskandar Reza
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Germany! Germany!

Militaristic and Scientific. Meaning I'll be the first one around the block to have a kick-ass weapon!! Woohoo!! Let's whip them all into shape!

Arrian is offline Arrian
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I think the commercial trait bonus is coming with PtW, not that patch. I didn't see anything re: commercial in the patch readme, but I could have missed it.

-Arrian

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no, make way to Alexander the Great. He shall conquer the earth. Hoplites cannot be beaten and Comercial und Scientific gives you greatest advantage.

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I think the Greeks have lost the most since civ2. I never play them in civ3.

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Commercial has been improved, a few extra arrows per city and doubling the max cities bonus (reduces corruption).

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no, make way to Alexander the Great. He shall conquer the earth. Hoplites cannot be beaten and Comercial und Scientific gives you greatest advantage.


Roman legions KILL Hoplites. And Immortals. They are the best overall early UU.

Venger

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Hah! University shall beat everyone's.........oops, wrong forum.

EDIT: Seriously though, I like scientific civs. Greece, Germany, Russia, whatever Xerxes' civ is (I forget the name), etc.

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Hah! University shall beat everyone's.........oops, wrong forum.


Avahz Darkwood is offline Avahz Darkwood
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Wrong USA will beat you all with our new U. unit. The civilian "TIPS" corps. You will never know what hit you, it could have been your meter reader, your mail carrier, or that diabolical MILK MAN!!!!!! You have been warned the SS er I mean tips is watching you.....

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Wrong USA will beat you all with our new U. unit. The civilian "TIPS" corps. You will never know what hit you, it could have been your meter reader, your mail carrier, or that diabolical MILK MAN!!!!!! You have been warned the SS er I mean tips is watching you.....




If the FBI can't do it, what makes you think American citizens can? `

Oh, and this is .

Anyway, Xerxes (Persia) with Scientific and Industrious...We all know what Industrious can do, and Science coupled with it....Ensures that you'll have a powerful army and the most advanced cities.

Incan_Warrior is offline Incan_Warrior
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The only thing worse than spam is someone posting that something ELSE is spam - so lay off the stupid spam smilies.

(Then again, is someone telling the spam police to quit spamming spam spam? There's a riddle for you)

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Roman legions KILL Hoplites. And Immortals.


think again! A4 against D3 with CityWalls. no can't do!

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Persia, their supperior traits, & their Immortals shall still rule the ancient age, although, the Vikings, their traits (most likely Militaristic & Commercial), & their anphibous swordsman will be pretty kick-ass.

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Hurry up with the patch already I can't wait. I wanna play Rome. (they aren't gonna stink anymore).

This is as it should be for the greatest Empire in History.


HAIL CAESAR!
They never really stank to me, at least not after I edited the Legion UU. I did a good job at that, without making it game unbalaning.

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think again! A4 against D3 with CityWalls. no can't do!


Oh, think again my friend, my legion 4/3/1 (comes later and is much more expensive, requires both gold and iron) can kick Immortal and Hoplite ass.

Kman

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"Roman legions KILL Hoplites. And Immortals. They are the best overall early UU."

Well I played Rome tonight and 15 of my legions all died to one hoplite...wow that pretty devastating isn't it?

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Well I played Rome tonight and 15 of my legions all died to one hoplite...wow that pretty devastating isn't it?


well did you hear that. thats how good those hoplites are! Go Hoplites!
maybe I (I allways play Greeks) should
put a sign outside my cities saying "Beware Angry Hoplites"

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"Roman legions KILL Hoplites. And Immortals. They are the best overall early UU."

Well I played Rome tonight and 15 of my legions all died to one hoplite...wow that pretty devastating isn't it?


The chances of 15 legions dying to one Hoplite are astronomical, in fact so high as to question how the Universe could have ever formed.

Do the math, 50 Hoplite vs. 50 Legion, 50/50 attack defend. Legions own.

Venger

Venger is offline Venger
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think again! A4 against D3 with CityWalls. no can't do!


Not sure where you are going with this, but in a 50 v. 50 scrimmage, the Legions will win. It's all simple math.

Venger

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Hurry up with the patch already I can't wait. I wanna play Rome. (they aren't gonna stink anymore).

This is as it should be for the greatest Empire in History.



Weren't they already? I mean, if you compare any army in history to Rome, Rome would be more powerful.

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Weren't they already? I mean, if you compare any army in history to Rome, Rome would be more powerful.


I think he was refering to that they stunk in the game and he wants to make them kick ass in the game, befitting how kickass they were in real life... but maybe i don't understand what your saying....
With that out of the way I agree with you, a Roman Legion would own any army of infantry of comaparble size well through the middle ages, until reliable gun powder fire arms were developed. Though they would lack sufficient defense against the later cavalry, due to the development of the stirrup and other riding innovations in Europe that made mounted warriors much more effective than their ancient counter parts (who often rode bare-back and guided the horses by tugging on their mane).
EDIT: Even then, though, a Legion would give a medieval army a run for its money. Now that I think about, perhaps Roman pilums (throwing javalins) would of been effective agains knights and the like? Not sure.

Kman

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