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Artifex
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Kentucky USA
Apr 2002
time: 05:21
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I think they gave russia weak traits. Russia in theory is my favorite civ. The way they are implemented in this game makes them my least favorite. I hate the expansionist trait with a passion.
They should make the leader Lenin. What is up with that fat woman?
Russia should be militaristic and Industrious like china. The cossack should be 7.3.3 or 6.3.4.
The 6.4.3 is an insult. You don't use cavalry for defense.
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PeteBDawg
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Riding the Boxcars from Town to Town
Jun 2002
time: 00:21
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Making the Russians militaristic would be an historical mistake. The Russians have never, not even in the Soviet era, been especially focused on adopting a militaristic social structure. Certainly, the military has been an important tool in the hands of politicians and leaders in Russia for centuries, but generally the skill and training of the army has been secondary to the ability to deliver overwhelming numbers to squash resistance without having to worry about the advantages afforded by superior training or armaments. Yes, Russia has been a military powerhouse, but it has never been because of the importance of the Russian soldier in Russian society. Russian royalty, bureaucrats, and politicians, not generals, have spearheaded the various rises to power. In fact, prior to the World War II, I believe that the Russian soldier was never held in high regard at all by any foreign power. This is not, of course, the fault of the Russian soldier, but the fault of his superiors, who generally believed him to be complete expendable and not deserving proper training or armament. Thus, giving Russians cheap barracks and combat experience would run counter to the root of almost all of their military success.
The Russians should certainly be scientific; that's an appropriate trait for them. They've remained competitive scientifically even when at huge commerical disadvantages to their rivals. Expansionist is lame, I agree, but it is appropriate. If you wanted to pick another one, you can't pick commercial (for obvious reasons), you can't pick religious (Russian revolutions definitely come with periods of anarchy), and you can't pick militaristic.
Industrious seems a little more challenging, because Russian industry is infamous, but Russians aren't really known for infrastructure. In fact, they're sort of known for really poor infrastructure, especially in the pre-Soviet era. And all the industrious nations in the game are known for their infrastructure as often as than their industry- France, in particular (who invented the 30-hour work week), but also Persia and probably America (American highways and railroads probably outstrip the value of American factories). And Egypt and China, though industrious because of their monuments, also generally had comparatively developed infrastructures, at least during the heights of their local dominance.
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buzzbat
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Michigan
Jun 2002
time: 00:21
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I gotta go with persia, with immortals early on i kick ass, and industrious and scientific i still kick ass...
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