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That about sums it up. Although, a suggestion or two:
- We SHOULD replenish our military. The French, I suspect, are going to put up a tougher fight than the Americans, so we should build another "refresher" army before we do the Paris thing. Otherwise, this plan works well as a diversionary tactic for us to get the land we want.
BTW, thanks for naming it, I don't really have a knack for that type of thing 
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I agree with Goodfella about the greek & french alliance against russia & rome.
I don't agree with attacking england or france, both are alot more likely to leave us alone than germany, greece, or the aztecs.
After america, if there is to be another war of conquest, I seriously think it should be germany. Our chances of having a long term peaceful border with them are alot lower than having one with the french & english.
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kring
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Wichita,KS,USA
Dec 2001
time: 23:21
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If Greece does ally with us, and attacks Paris, there is no guarantee, the Greeks won't take Paris, instead of just weakening it for us to take. I expect us to take more casualties than that. I hope we want, but I am not counting on it. Better to plan for higher losses, and have fewer than the other way around. I know there are all sorts of combat calculators out there, but in the games I have played, the odds don't always go the way they are supposed; sometimes good, sometimes bad.
I agree with the need for a Plan B; it can't hurt, and it is better to have a well thought out Plan B, than to come up with it in a hurry.
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Captain
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by Divine Right
May 2001
time: 00:21
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What about leaving France alone for a while? They're not a threat to us (yet) and I think we'll have bigger things to worry about. Their UU is crappy and they're generally non-aggressive. The only reason we'd want to fight them is to gain that land for ourselves.
Don't ally with the Greeks. Why give them French cities that we'd want later? They'd only stack them with hoplites and make it harder for us to capture later. We don't need them, and allying with them would only make our lives more difficult. The French contending with the Greeks would be good to balance that side. Then we could concentrate on the north and push up against the German/Aztecs. If we wipe out the French and leave only the gReeks, they'll be boxed in the corner and have only one way out - through us!
What about making a major settler/spearman rush for the Fragrant Valley and the Ivory Coast?
Sure, we might not beat the Greeks there, but if we can keep our American war to less than 20 turns, we can switch emphasis to colonizing the north. We should be able to grab a lot of it.
Then, instead of immediate war, I suggest we road our empire next. At that point, if we do manage to get ot the northern coast, we'll be fairly large. Roads will be necessary to make use of those luxuries (v important to keep our cities productive) and strategic resources, and to ferry troops along quickly. At that size, and with our neighbours expanding too, we'd be butted up against them. It would be good for us to road up our interior to be able to muster a credible defense (otherwise our cities would get picked off). Also, it would help us concentrate our troops on the border quickly for an offense.
Bsides, the leftover troops from the american war will be useful to deterr other nations, but not really for a war. We don't have much use for archers after this time. Archer gambit really only works by surprise. A long drawn out war with archers is disaster for us.
After America and planting cities til we're full, we should road up. Then start with the swordsmen before the next war (unless it isn't our choice). Or get knights asap.
Let's get that iron.
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Aggie
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Of GOW's half of BOB
Jun 2002
time: 23:21
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Captian, first congradulations on your new appointment. Now to answer your questions as I see it. IMHO we should attack france quickly for 3 reasons.
1) As you pointed out, the archer attachs will be useless soon. So I suggest we get as much mileage as possible from them. Will we take all of france with them. No. but we probably could take several cities and perhaps aquire some iron for ourselves.
2) We want their land and right now we are boxed in. After we beat america we could colonize the area nw of them. However such an area would be rife with corruption and we would also have a narrow nation, that would simply make us too vulnerable. Frenchland cities would be lower in corruption.
3) If we wait, france will produce swordsmen and one day will visit us with an army of them. Right now they are peaceful but the day will come with our weakness and their increasing strength that they will decide to attack. Without iron we can't stop such an invasion and would be doomed.
Lastly let me say I don't want any alliance with greece. As I've said several times before(others have too). Any cities they take with us will simply we ones we must take in the end.
Aggie
Last edited by Aggie on 24-07-2002 at 05:13
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BigRed515
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or facing the gigantic Aztecs to our north with only our original + (soon to have) American cities, which worries me more than musketeers ever will.
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20-07-2002 22:22
L O L!!!!!!!!!!!
) by a few Spearmen (maybe 5) and about 4 Archers. 
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