22-07-2002 18:37									#1
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Could someone explain me in a simple way how do You transport army by ships in EU2 from a shore to a shore?

	22-07-2002 19:49									#2
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Move your fleet out of port into a sea tile. Click your army. Move it into your fleet by right-clicking on it. Wait a two weeks or so. When you get the message your army has boarded the fleet, click on your fleet and move it to a sea tile next to the shore you want your army to land. Click the 'Unload Troops' button in your left side of the screen IIRC. Your army will now be selected and you just have to right-click on the province you want your army to land. Perhaps I explained it too simple I don't know.

	22-07-2002 19:50									#3
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Or if you have a port in the destination province, just move the fleet to that port after the army has boarded. The army will unboard automatically after the fleet has docked.

	22-07-2002 21:08									#4
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I already learned it, thanks. I had problems with my empire,
as I had some enclaves (Estonia, Sinope, Morea and Smyrna) that could not be reachable by any other way but by sea and they were under barbarian attack.

	25-07-2002 16:38									#5
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quote: Originally posted by M@ni@c Or if you have a port in the destination province, just move the fleet to that port after the army has boarded. The army will unboard automatically after the fleet has docked.

Although - if you do this keep in mind that your army cannot retreat to a fleet in harbour. If you are e.g. landing troops in Rhodes to fight rebels and lose the army will be annihilated (learned the hard way )

	27-07-2002 21:27									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Havard Although - if you do this keep in mind that your army cannot retreat to a fleet in harbour. If you are e.g. landing troops in Rhodes to fight rebels and lose the army will be annihilated (learned the hard way )

*cough* update *cough*

	27-07-2002 22:58									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson I already learned it, thanks. I had problems with my empire, as I had some enclaves (Estonia, Sinope, Morea and Smyrna) that could not be reachable by any other way but by sea and they were under barbarian attack.

Estonia? What are you doing there? Looking at Smyrna and Morea you are a mediterranean power.

	27-07-2002 22:58									#8
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See above my weekly contribution to keep this forum alive.

	28-07-2002 00:39									#9
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And here is mine
Well I am. But Baltic/Black Sea empire too
Eventually I had to resign of this game however. My empire
had 50% inflation and I didn't know how to fight it.
How to change that?
Right now I'm playing Turkey; My empire stretches from Switzerland to Persia. Venice has fallen bu later resurrected and is my vassal now, Austria is limited to (once captured)
Vienna. Egypt is limited to its capital too. Right now I started conquering Lithuania. I love this game

	28-07-2002 02:40									#10
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1. Set your monthly income to zero. That's your primary cause of corruption.

2. Always pay the 100 ducats for not getting an extra 10% inflation.

3. Build governors when you get the right infrastructure level.

4. Pray to Fortuna for Excellent Year events

	28-07-2002 17:01									#11
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I do that and it doesn't seem to get any better.
Well, I have no gouvernors yet.

	28-07-2002 21:50									#12
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Some boasting....

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	28-07-2002 21:52									#13
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And a question;
how do You send settlers and convert provinces?
Perhaps that would help me. Austria iand Adriatic provinces are in constant fight against me even if my stabillity is high?

	28-07-2002 22:14									#14
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You can only convert provinces with settlers if they have less than 500-600 people. Otherwise you have to use expensive missionaries. That's why I only try to conquer provinces of my religion or of my culture if reasonably possible.

	28-07-2002 23:30									#15
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How do I create missionaries, then?

	28-07-2002 23:49									#16
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You get missionaries based on your domestic policies (usually Narrowmindedness). You would then use the Missionaries button (along side the Diplomacy button above the mini-map) then select a province you own and want to convert. The price of conversion is quite high and I've found it to be not worth it. It's much easier to adjust your religious tolerance levels.

	29-07-2002 00:55									#17
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And where can I find it?

	29-07-2002 01:20									#18
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Assuming you mean the relgious tolerance, you click on your National Shield on the left hand side of the screen (it's above where your Victory Points are displayed), then click on the icon that represents your relgion. Christians it'll be a variation of a cross, for Muslims, a cicle, etc.

	29-07-2002 02:45									#19
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The price of conversion is quite high and I've found it to be not worth it.

I disagree. Adjusting the tolerance levels is only effective if you have 3 or fewer religions within your borders. With more, you get constant revolts at 3 stability.

Note that conversion chances go up in national culture provinces and if you have a garrison at the time of completion.

	29-07-2002 02:57									#20
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Thanks. Converting is a nice thing - if it succeeds. Austria was so nice to convert quite easily, while Adriatic Catholic Provinces and Shiite Eastern Provinces are still a p-i-t-a.
Hm. I halted my conquers and spend all my money on those dumb missionaries, but when they are almost finished garrison is overhelmed by barbarians and I loose them it seems. I got rid of Austrian problems, but have quite some
in the east, and anyway because I spend so much money on
missions, I have no money for army, and I can't attack no-one though I have a nice opportunity

	29-07-2002 04:34									#21
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If the province rebels before the missionary is complete, the missionary is still there, you just can't see him, he goes undercover because of hostility

	29-07-2002 04:46									#22
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hm. Then, it means that missionaries aren't effective...
Now tell me; do I get some money from my ally?
And is there a possibility of making EU scenarios?
What can You change, then?
I don't mean only obvious things (You know, at least in the central/eastern Europe, cultures, religions, provinces, borders of them are often quite incorrect sometimes...)

	29-07-2002 14:02									#23
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo The price of conversion is quite high and I've found it to be not worth it. I disagree. Adjusting the tolerance levels is only effective if you have 3 or fewer religions within your borders. With more, you get constant revolts at 3 stability. Note that conversion chances go up in national culture provinces and if you have a garrison at the time of completion.

Also note that having extra religions within your border will hamper your stability by increasing the price of stability investment quite a lot.

Missionaries are definitely worth it. You decrease stability cost, rebel risk and you get rid of the -30% modifier to province income.

	29-07-2002 14:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus_Rex *cough* update *cough*

Hey - I updated last night

	29-07-2002 14:09									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson hm. Then, it means that missionaries aren't effective... Now tell me; do I get some money from my ally? And is there a possibility of making EU scenarios? What can You change, then? I don't mean only obvious things (You know, at least in the central/eastern Europe, cultures, religions, provinces, borders of them are often quite incorrect sometimes...)

The missionary is still active if he goes undercover. Wait a bit and see how he manages.

The only money get from your allies are when they broker a peace deal involving money - any indemnities payed are split between the menbers of the alliance.

There is a scenario forum over at the official EU forums. Take look - there are some scenarios for download from the same site (here), and more in the works in the scenario forum. St. Leo and the Scenario league here at Apolyton are also doing scenarios...

	29-07-2002 16:09									#26
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I recall downloading some "scenarios" but I don't know exactly where to put them. t seems it is like with early civ stuff, You have to supersede normal files with them... But it's annoiying and I'm afraid that I'll loose some file or roegwt which ones were modified ones...

	29-07-2002 22:42									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Heresson I don't mean only obvious things (You know, at least in the central/eastern Europe, cultures, religions, provinces, borders of them are often quite incorrect sometimes...)

It seems borders and provinces are incorrect everywhere. The situation around Flanders is just a nightmare, especially that huge Zeeland province.

	30-07-2002 00:09									#28
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I can understand it sometimes, it may be for strategical reasons (f.e. no-one revolted against Poland in what today is western Ukraine so they made it peacefull Byelorussian,
but it's a bit strange, more obvious choice and correct one would be Polish culture there)

And a little update of my conquests...
Vienna and Rome were conquered again.
Rome is free, but just temporarly as well as shreds of Poland (-Lithuania). Ongoing fight with Oman-Jemen takes place in two-three still free provinces in Oman, I'm having problems with supporting troops there but fight surely will be won.

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	30-07-2002 01:02									#29
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Say, how do you make these maps? Print screen doesn't seem to work if I press the button in-game. And where are the print screen files supposed to appear?

	30-07-2002 02:43									#30
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I make them manually... that's why their quality is low...