24-07-2002 12:38									#1
	Will there be any new Civ-specific abilities? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I thought I heard there would be, but that was a while back, and might have been a rumor. Anyone know?

And what might they be if there are? Maritime? Agricultural? Any other ideas?

	24-07-2002 14:54									#2
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I haven't heard of that in any of the previews/interviews I've seen. Be good if those rumours were true.

You'd think they'd need to add a few to make sure every civ remains unique.

	24-07-2002 22:54									#3
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Yes, a couple I think would be good would be:

The ever so popular Maritime trait where harbors, coastal fortesses, and ships are cheaper and mabee win combats more or more effective bombardment.

We already have traits which give commercial and shield bonuses so I think an Agricultural trait giving a food bonus would be good. Granaries, aqueducts, and sewers can also be cheaper.

	25-07-2002 02:01									#4
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quote: Originally posted by GoodFella ...The ever so popular Maritime trait where harbors, coastal fortesses, and ships are cheaper and mabee win combats more or more effective bombardment...

That's a good idea - I could see a few civs we already have benefitting from that (eg-England) as well as new ones (like if they put a nation from Oceania).

Going along those lines a similiar thing for aircraft would possible - where airports, SAMs, and aircraft are cheaper and aircraft are more effective. It would really give America an advantage with its UU.

	25-07-2002 05:44									#5
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In some chat with the devs they said they weren't making iny new Civ Traits.

	26-07-2002 11:23									#6
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i think we're all hoping to make civ-specific improvements. i don't believe that would be too hard to implement.

	26-07-2002 13:06									#7
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In the chat, they did indeed say that there were no new civ traits.

	26-07-2002 18:09									#8
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quote: Originally posted by kring In the chat, they did indeed say that there were no new civ traits.

	26-07-2002 19:46									#9
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Yes, that was bad news. One can only hope for another XP.

	27-07-2002 23:28									#10
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quote: The ever so popular Maritime trait where harbors, coastal fortesses, and ships are cheaper and mabee win combats more or more effective bombardment.

But perhaps not too useful if you're start in the middle of a big continent then.

	28-07-2002 01:04									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf But perhaps not too useful if you're start in the middle of a big continent then.

True, but Expansionist is just as useless when you start on a small island.

	28-07-2002 18:19									#12
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Nope, no new traits. I wish they would though. Civ are gonna start seeming to alike. they only thing seperating 'em will be thier uu.

	06-08-2002 03:32									#13
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I could see diplomatic too. Maybe "better reputation, more likely to get a better deal during negotiations, less likely to be sneak-attacked"?

	06-08-2002 04:20									#14
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quote: Originally posted by BoojiBoy I could see diplomatic too. Maybe "better reputation, more likely to get a better deal during negotiations, less likely to be sneak-attacked"?

'Diplomatic' was discussed together with some other potential CSA's (agricultural, maritime/seafearing) some months ago. Outline: Interesting idea, but not really practical in multiplayer (that is, unless PtW or a second expansion pack vastly enhances the role of the U.N.)