30-12-2002 18:18									#31
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Excellent work HolyWarrior. Very interesting. Answers a lot of questions. Looks good.

	31-12-2002 11:33									#32
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MrWhereItsAt, according to the current tech tree, Computers counts as a Seminal Discovery, granting 4VP and allows the Internet productivity improvement (but doesn't give you a free one).

I tried it out with a group who had it over Thanksgiving weekend. In a 4 hour session, we barely made it to the industrial age. I was playing North America and came in third, due to having a coal monopoly early. Bloody South Americans tried to start a war, deservedly finished last. Meanwhile Europe and Asia were buds the whole game and naturally won. Europe started with a whole slew of free tech chits...

	31-12-2002 12:03									#33
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Well, I just finished up a play session with 4 people. After about a half-hour of sorting all the pieces out, we finally got down to playing (advanced rules). To put it simply, never play by the simple rules: they are not fun at all, in my opinion. The advanced rules makes for a much richer game experience.

So, after 4 hours of play, we're midway through the Medieval era. Massive swarms of knights are making their way across Europe, as a two-front alliance borders on knocking one player out of the game. However, that player controls all of the curent military tech, meaning he makes a load of money off his enemies... should be interesting to see how it develops when we get to sit down and play it some more..

	02-01-2003 20:10									#34
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Thanks HolyWarrior! Interesting about SETI - it is mentioned as a Wonder you get with Computers (IIRC) -I can check when I get back on the 5th. It would make the tech too expensive if it didn't have something like a Wonder accompanying it, so perhaps they removed it and like idiots didn't adjust the tech card before release.

Yes, the SETU wonder was removed just before publication, evidently it was unbalancing. Eagle Games has been very quiet about what it actually did, but not having it is the way the game was shipped.

	03-01-2003 07:52									#35
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That's a shame about SETI.... but does that mean since no Wonder comes with Computers that tech should be cheaper than it was as shipped?

	09-01-2003 03:42									#36
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quote: The manual has little blurbs at the top of the pages, and one of these states they have an expansion pack in the works - no idea what it would include though.

Well it says some of the thigns included will be governments and a way to randomize the map other than the exploration markers. Also, I expect there might be a more detailed production system.

	09-01-2003 04:14									#37
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Anybody heard the NEWS?

Boardgame got errata (look for link ata apolyton news page).

Errata clarifies that there should be not SETI in the game (and some other things).

	18-01-2003 04:07									#38
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you can get the boardgame at CompUSA for less than 40 bucks

just search the web

Also I suggest making your own rules blend the Diplomacy boardgame rules with axis and allies and SMAC... even borrow ideas from the MoO series.