25-07-2002 12:19									#31
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Hit early!
Hit fast!
Hit hard!

Be merciless. It's war. The Great Bananicus will be on our side.

	25-07-2002 13:11									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Hit early! Hit fast! Hit hard! Be merciless. It's war. The Great Bananicus will be on our side.

Are we sure we have sufficent forces to meet the third citeria you mentioned?

	25-07-2002 13:31									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Are we sure we have sufficent forces to meet the third citeria you mentioned?

In a game with a random outcome of combat you can never be sure. Nevertheless, I use the archer rush in nearly every game of mine and fail to take my objectives rarely. Never have seen a complete disaster. Btw, I attack with 5 archers/2 spears stacks only, so we already have 1 spare archer with us.

As for hit hard: All we need is to take one city, (auto-)raze one and get one for peace. For a civ with 5-6 cities this is hard enough. I don't want us to finish America off.

Not yet, that is.

	25-07-2002 13:45									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph In a game with a random outcome of combat you can never be sure. Nevertheless, I use the archer rush in nearly every game of mine and fail to take my objectives rarely. Never have seen a complete disaster. Btw, I attack with 5 archers/2 spears stacks only, so we already have 1 spare archer with us. As for hit hard: All we need is to take one city, (auto-)raze one and get one for peace. For a civ with 5-6 cities this is hard enough. I don't want us to finish America off. Not yet, that is.

You dont, but didn't the people decide to wipe america off the planet?

	25-07-2002 14:26									#35
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Well we should simply declare war when it is convenient, and it would be a little bit clumsy if we have to stop trunchat for, even though I never attend it. So I´m voting Yes, they can declare war whenever they feel like it, presuming that they will do it in such a gentlemanly fashion that no reputation damage will occur.

While we have agreed upon the cold-blooded tactic of oscillatig war. I do believe that it would be prudent to take more than a single city. We should take control of at least 50% of their domain, not cultural border, but living and breating cities. Of course all this will be decided once we begin our war with the Americans.

	25-07-2002 14:49									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 You dont, but didn't the people decide to wipe america off the planet?

They may have voted, but for this the force we sent is by far not enough. We'd need at least twice as much, rather more. And the effect would be zero, as before we could settle the achieved land with our own settlers, the Germans and French would have claimed it with theirs. Another reason is, if we wipe them out, we won't get any advantage from peace treaties, like free cities and techs. I don't think, that the people here are not smart enough to take these godsent gifts.

We shall finish off America and fulfill the people's will, when the time has come. For now, when we have taken our objectives, I'm pretty sure, the people will let us make peace.

	25-07-2002 15:48									#37
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Well, I for one say if we are going to lose the war, then may the banana put us out of our misery sooner rather than later

But I also doubt we'll lose, worst case we'll only manage to take and hold one city, before we hit a stalemate. -Now just don't make me eat those words banana dice god

	25-07-2002 15:57									#38
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I trust the FAM and SMC with the licence to kill when the Rubicon is crossed or when the iron is hot.

My trainee archers (straight out of my highly successful schools ) have itchy trigger fingers and wanna lay the Smack Down! on some candy asses.

Cry havoc and release the hounds....

	26-07-2002 03:11									#39
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Hey, Ninot, why isn't this at the top or at least on the first page, the future of Apolytonia is at stake!!

	26-07-2002 04:36									#40
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Is this poll still valid: Should I allow a Sneak attack that will hurt Reputation?


If it is, let's remember to abide by its results which were 69.84% (44 citizens) said no.

	26-07-2002 04:54									#41
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If we lose the war the game will still be fun. We can escape to the island and try to re-build. And if we really lose then we can re-start and try again hopefully with a better starting location.

	26-07-2002 05:56									#42
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The death of the war would not be the death of Apolytonia. Our great leader banana has chosen to valiantly stay home during the military campaign.

	26-07-2002 23:16									#43
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We should face the war with blind acceptance, withtout thinking of a grim future.
Our future is bright, people !

(disclaimer : these word can stop applying any moment during the turnchat)

	27-07-2002 00:07									#44
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The allmighty civilization calculator states that:

Vet archer vs Vet spearmen (fortified in a town)
gives a 34% chance of killing the defender

Vet archer vs Vet spearmen (fortified in a walled town)
gives a 20% chance of killing the defender.

Best case scenario they have 2 spears in an unwalled city.
Even without cumulative damage we'd probably take them out.

Worst case scenario they have 3 spears in a walled city.
Here all we need is for each archer to take 2 HP off a spear before dying which is probable although if anyone of their spears survives more than two archer attacks he will gain a HP and we'll be screwed.

(Assuming all AI spears are vets which they may not be.)

Overall my 8-ball says we're going to win but even if we get wiped out straight away we still have a chance

	27-07-2002 00:10									#45
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AI spears will be regulars, lest they have been in contact with barbarians. They don't build barracks quite so early. And they almost NEVER bild walls.

	27-07-2002 00:44									#46
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Reworked odds:

Vet archer vs Reg spearman (Fortified in a town)
gives a 51% chance of killing the defender.

lol
Out manned and outgunned

Even if we lose the first 3 archers we'll still "probably" win the battle.

In my humble opinion you can warm up the barbeque for some burgers.

	27-07-2002 08:16									#47
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I am usually anti-war, but in this case, lets kick @ss