26-07-2002 03:01									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion yes, but you never posted. probably an old DL.

Actually, I did post, every week or so. Just never in Off-Topic.

	26-07-2002 03:01									#62
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Italy doesn't count, they sucked in their own way. Had they been on a level with Germany, Grece would have been screwed.

	26-07-2002 03:02									#63
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I bet if Greece was the size of Britain we could have taken them on all by ourselves. After all we stopped a country 6 times larger than us.

I take it you're referring to the Italians?

Come off it, the Vatican could have beat those wimps. At least they were smart enough to surrender as soon as the Anglo-American forces arrived in Sicily.

	26-07-2002 03:03									#64
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Maybe they were bad fighetrs but they were still 6 times larger.

And Greece got screwed after Germany had to come and finish what the Italians could not.

	26-07-2002 03:04									#65
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But Germany got screwed there as well, think Crete.

Are you still pestered by that guy?

	26-07-2002 03:05									#66
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What guy?

	26-07-2002 03:06									#67
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The bad guy.

	26-07-2002 03:06									#68
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 They were bad mother****ers yes. But still it was one Great Power against the other (you). I bet if Greece was the size of Britain we could have taken them on all by ourselves. After all we stopped a country 6 times larger than us.

If Germany was purely attacking Greece you wouldn't have stood a chance.

Anyway my original point being that yes, one on one Germany would have defeated England. However England has been clever enough to forge alliances to protect itself. Germany relied on itself. Had Germany allied up properly it could have won the war. That being waht makes England better.

	26-07-2002 03:07									#69
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the one who pestered you

and where's the thread where you gave info about that EU student project thing? I'm still interested.

	26-07-2002 03:10									#70
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Come on Sagacious, who would have allied with the Nazis?

Ok the Italians are known to make mistakes in judgement in the past

But seriously, there was democracy versus totalitarianism.

You didn't have to do anything to gain allies. (which were not "yours" of course )

	26-07-2002 03:11									#71
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give me an eu link, please

	26-07-2002 03:12									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion the one who pestered you and where's the thread where you gave info about that EU student project thing? I'm still interested.

who???

You have to search for that thread with the EU student projects. put as search keys, Erasmus.

	26-07-2002 03:12									#73
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you had bad phone calls from some bad man

thanks for the hint

	26-07-2002 03:14									#74
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Come on Sagacious, who would have allied with the Nazis?

Anyone who would benefit. I'm sure the Turks would have helped to invade Greece if given sufficient incentives.

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oh yeah he stopped, the bastard, whoever he was.

	26-07-2002 03:16									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Anyone who would benefit. I'm sure the Turks would have helped to invade Greece if given sufficient incentives.

Only coordinated allied deception kept spain from allying with germany. That would likely hae meant the fall of gibraltar, and Nazi control of the Med and therefore Egypt.

	26-07-2002 03:17									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Anyone who would benefit. I'm sure the Turks would have helped to invade Greece if given sufficient incentives.

Which makes you think we they didn't.

After all the Bulgarians didn't have these sort of reservations.

	26-07-2002 03:19									#78
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Dan, Spain had a fascist rule at the time. Much more closer to Nazi's ideals.


(as did Greece.... and still we fought on the Allies side...)

	26-07-2002 03:19									#79
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I don't know much about the Greek arena, but my point is that mercenary nations are just as useful as those fighting for a cause.

	26-07-2002 03:21									#80
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I knew spain was fascist, but I didn't know greece was. I thought they were a monarchy. Stupid me...

	26-07-2002 03:22									#81
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paiktis, thanks, I found a German EU sites with all the socrates programms, including erasmus

	26-07-2002 03:23									#82
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I guess so, although those fighting for a cause are always better.

Which brings me back to what I was saying. That no country (in its right mind) would want to do business with a guy like Hitler. Whatever the "promised" advantages.

	26-07-2002 03:24									#83
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Perhaps even some Germans on Deutsche Welle shoud be given extra lessons in geography. Have a look at Finland.



Now that's really frightening. The global warming has dried out that much land between the mainland and Alandia (my new English name for Åland).

	26-07-2002 03:25									#84
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Dan, Greece was a monarchy yes.

It wasn't fascist per se, but the Prime Minister was not elected but had taken the power by a coup.

Still he wanted to fight for the Allies and was proven to be an excellent strategist in the war. He was a general, Metaxas was his name.

The Palace (bavarian royalty) wanted Greece to fight for Germany.

	26-07-2002 03:26									#85
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They're trying to get to sweden.

	26-07-2002 03:26									#86
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what are you talking about? that map looks fine.

unless you're a pedant and rant about the very tight bottnic whatever

	26-07-2002 03:28									#87
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Finland is shaped wrong.

	26-07-2002 03:31									#88
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I don't think it is. "wrong" is quite relative here. It is a bit bizarre compared to the real one, but it's still quite correct. look, the bottom right (yeah, southeast) peak is there, that tendency eastwards is also there, just more extreme, and so on... it's just a bit... what do they say... spoiled...

	26-07-2002 03:33									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I don't think it is. "wrong" is quite relative here. It is a bit bizarre compared to the real one, but it's still quite correct. look, the bottom right (yeah, southeast) peak is there, that tendency eastwards is also there, just more extreme, and so on... it's just a bit... what do they say... spoiled...

They felt it needed to be accentuated- it's finland's best feature.

	26-07-2002 03:37									#90
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what? that slight tendency eastwards on Finland's west coast?