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quadalpha is offline quadalpha
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Jul 2002
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Science tip (may be a bit of a cheat) Get a bigger avatar today!

Don't know if this is common knowledge, but if you set your science level to 100%, you'll start to lose money in a big way, but as long as there's some money in the treasury (even just 1 gold), no matter how much of a deficit you have, it always drops to 0 before going into the negatives. So you can sell your territory map or something for 1 gold each turn and sustain a 100% science rate without accumulating a crippling debt (you can always put taxes on 100% for a few turns if you need money).

FrustratedPoet is offline FrustratedPoet
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Mar 2002
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doesn't that mean that you can't pay the upkeep on any of your city improvements?

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Sep 2001
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i somewhere heard this worked on chieftain, but not on other levels. But I could be wrong.

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You can pay upkeep, it goes from 'Gold: 1 (-300)' to 'Gold: 0 (-300)'. All you do is get another gold to repeat the process.

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Jan 2002
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If this is true, surely it gives rise to exploits. Thanks quadalpha!

DeepO

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Mar 2001
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Why do you have to tell us this? Now I'll start cheating.... arghhh

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Cheating is always a decision of the player, there are too many possibilities... but it is good to know the different exploits so you can identify them in other's games.

DeepO

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May 2002
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Quadalpha - on what difficulty level are you employing this tactic?

I distinctly remember moving from Chieftan to Warlord or Warlord to Regent (OK, not that distinctly ) and being surprised to see that on this new difficulty level a deficit of even 1 gpt resulted in military units and/or city improvements being disbanded / destroyed each turn.

Catt

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Dec 2001
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You lose units starting with Warlord in the games I have played at Warlord; even if it is a result of getting units from goody huts.

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Jul 2002
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If I could play at warlord I wouldn't need any cheats/exploits

Arrian is offline Arrian
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Jul 2001
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You're not gonna learn much by using cheats/exploits. But that's just my opinion. If you're having fun, it's all good. If your aim is to move up to higher difficulty levels, I would encourage you not to use this.

-Arrian

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Jan 2002
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Why would anyone bother to play below monarch level after the 10 first games?

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Mar 2002
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Why would anyone bother to play below monarch level after the 10 first games?


Because maybe people are tired after working/ going to school all day, and they want to have a nice fun game.

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May 2002
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If I could play at warlord I wouldn't need any cheats/exploits


You'll get there. Keep at it.

Blake is offline Blake
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Because monarch and above are warmongerers difficulties . The easier levels are for builders.

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Oct 2001
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Because monarch and above are warmongerers difficulties . The easier levels are for builders.


Are you sure?
I play like a "builder" (with short wars that I don´t start) on emperor

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Willem is offline Willem
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Dec 2001
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quote:
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Because monarch and above are warmongerers difficulties . The easier levels are for builders.


I'm a builder, and I always play on Regent. As long as you expand rapidly and maintain a strong defensive force, there's no problem.

PS Oh wait, Regent's below Monarch isn't it? Never mind.

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I dont think below monarch level is a builder's game. i just think war is less necesary because the A.I. doesnt expand as quickly as on the higher levels. In the higher levels, you are less likely to get resources/ good spots because of rapid A.I. expansion. So war is more likely on higher levls, but higher levels arnt just for warmongers.

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Jun 2002
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I tried this in my latest game, I had around 120gp in my cash register and a net of -200 gpt. When the turn ended I lost a brracks and also an artillery unit...
This on deity so at least there it doesn't seem to work.

/Cheers

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Jul 2002
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Thanks for the encouragement!
I've started a warlord game on the world map and it's going decidedly better than the last time I peeked out of chieftain. In fact, it's better than my last game on chieftain. I have have research set on 100 and is gaining around 30 gold/turn from trades, so I don't know whether it works or not, but I don't really intend to find out anymore.

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It won't work, it only happens on Chieftain level.

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