26-07-2002 07:18									#1
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1.) The Iroquois are making a bid for horses/mounted warriors (Oil Springs). They might be able to break out of their vast arid prison after all, though they'll have to do it by making war. Actually, their terrain, while terrible for growth purposes, favors their UU: they should be able to head off any attack fairly effectively, if the AI uses effective horse tactics (which I don't think the AI really does, however).

2.) Looks like Rome has a good headstart down in Abananba Minor, visa vi rivals Babylon and Russia. If an early war breaks out there, and legionaires come on line (and Rome does have access to iron, next to Cumae), they might be able to take out the Babs before they can get enough culture up to swamp them.

3.) The Americans get to Fragrant Valley first. This works in our favor. I say (and said, in another thread) (here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=56995 ) let them stay there, and hold the territory for us till we take it from them (probably in round two of warfare -- we don't want to autoraze it, and the AI doesn't give away cities with luxuries in their borders).

4.) Check out Xochicalco. The Aztecs are pressing in along the northern border, even faster than I expected.

5.) The Germans have built up a fair amount of infrastructure. Two size 5 cities already.

6.) England may make a mediocre civ, but this version has nice territory, including an optimal mix of resources and growth terrain.

7.) The Persians are going to have to stretch for iron, which will be all important to them of course (for reasons Immortal). But it's in range, of course.

Other observations?

[edited -- typos]

Last edited by Robber Baron on 26-07-2002 at 07:34

	26-07-2002 07:31									#2
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I'd watch the southern part of Abananaba... Babylonians have a wonder, probably a crap load of culture, and are near enemies. I expect a city or two to flip sides to Bab's favor (unless they are attacked)

	26-07-2002 07:35									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Epistax I'd watch the southern part of Abananaba... Babylonians have a wonder, probably a crap load of culture, and are near enemies. I expect a city or two to flip sides to Bab's favor (unless they are attacked)

That's right. I forgot about the wonder. Hmm, maybe legionaires won't come in time to hold that first line of border cities.

	26-07-2002 17:30									#4
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On Persia: What do you mean, they'll have to stretch? Our last update on their map puts them only 2 or 3 roads away from making a colony NE of Antioch.

	26-07-2002 17:35									#5
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quote: Originally posted by civman2000 On Persia: What do you mean, they'll have to stretch? Our last update on their map puts them only 2 or 3 roads away from making a colony NE of Antioch.

Yeah, my wording was misleading. I just meant, almost there, but that iron is well within reach, you're right.

	26-07-2002 17:44									#6
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On the positive side, many cities approaching us, namely

England: Coventry(grapes)

Germany: Munich(dyes)

Persia: Antioch, Gordium

Greece: Delphi

France: Chartres

are situated in near total (or total) jungle, and thus have little in the way of growth capability until there are workers slaving away for a while there. This jungle may actually aid us in the taking of any of these cities we choose (though of course not ALL).

	26-07-2002 22:11									#7
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where can i find screenshot of the map?

	27-07-2002 02:18									#8
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jdd - check out the download in the Executive Report.