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I suspect David Floyd is one but I think he is avoiding me. Libertarians get used to argueing with people that are liberal because they are liberal. I don't fit the profile of those easy marks.
I ran into one Libertarian that thought unlimited population was a good thing. He had no reply to a simple geometric progression. Couldn't handle the inherent result of more humans than there is mass in the Universe I guess. It doesn't take long to get there at four or five doubling per century.
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Evil HQ, Adelaide, South Australia
May 2001
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Sorry to interrupt, but in regards to the original story: 
What further lengths these miserable irrelevant dustmites will
go to for publicity eludes me. They are a sinking ship, and a very minor party, having lost a lot of ground here in SA over the past federal and state elections, and consequently, take any opportunity to continue their self deception.
I'm sure that the US does not give a rats tossbag over the depraved mutterings of the SA head of the Australian Democrats, which echo from deep in the waste disposal unit of history.
In the words of Bill Shakespeare, they "are a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Anyway, one is against any type of democracy. 
Now, you may return to your regularly scheduled flaming. 
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by Fez
Ethelred, on the other hand is a full blown idiot with no idea what politics are. |
So if I don't know what I am talking about why is calling me an idiot the best you can do. That was pathetic. Even by your standards.
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My economic beliefs, if you go into them deep enough are tied with corporatism (and even deeper tied with Franco's economic beliefs) and low regressive taxation. Progressive taxation is like progressive cancer, it threatens democracy and the economic system. |
Franco? You have to be kiddding. That tin pot dictator kept Spains economy in the crapper till after he died. No wonder you don't make any sense. The Cato Instupid and Franco are diametricaly opposed. Even the fools at Cato aren't dumb enough to be pro Franco.
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Just to raise the signal to noise ratio of this thread, and to prevent our American Bretheren from completely overrunning the conversation with their inane drivel about the politics of a typical "think tank" organization on their beltway.
The latest on the Democrats. (NOT the US version, though many in the US and outside World wish it were)
Natasha is back, and in control. The recalcitrant senator has been given 1 week to consider his position. It seems that the "democratically" elected senators are complaining that the party has too much say in the running of their portfolios. Odd for a party called "Democrats".
Anyway, I certainly hope that they self destruct.
I also hope that some way is found to ensure that the Upper house (the Senate - something Roman about that, I always expect to see the honourable senators in Toga's) does not imped the legislation of the Lower house (the Representatives - although just who they represent is a moot point). That way, we the public will really have to think carefully about giving our vote instead of the current situation where we vote one party in Government and the other party in the Senate to block our first vote.
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Darkness' Edge
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what a heap of sh*t this story is...
who the hell is mike elliott? i'm australian, i follow politics for a hobby, and i've never heard of the guy...shows how important he is
and on stott despoja...
she just hasn't been given a go
from the moment she took over, the media bashed her
she was the only one of the democrat sheep to speak up against the GST, and if she hadn't deposed Lees, I suspect the party would have taken a much greater bashing at the last election.
Lees is a grudge-holding, pathetic woman afraid to lose her power.
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quote:
Originally posted by Case
Why not just abolish it then? If the senate can't function as a chamber of review then it's nothing more then a waste of money.
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It can't be abolished until the people are protected from the government by a constitution that puts people before government.
That is why the Government will probably never have control of the Senate again. People don't trust the Government to protect their rights.
Besides to abolish it, it would require a referendum. And that can only happen if it passes both houses of parliament. Can you imagine the senators voting to abolish their jobs.
The Senate is not broken. It's just disfunctional.
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What?
Dysfunctional or Broken?
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I Aus. I don't think they are as "effective" as in the U.S. of A.
But it depends on your definition of effective.
In Aus. all sorts of groups generally get TV time, if the media thinks that they have something controversial and therefore "new worthy".
Generally, when some topic, for example the middle east, comes up, there are think tanks that will make spokesmen available to answer questions and push thier views (the think tanks, not the spokesman).
We have Military TT's, Political - affiliated with political parties, environmental, business, economic the whole gamut.
I have not heard of them lobbying Government or Parliamentary/Senatorial members, however, the Government does commission papers from a broad range of TT's.
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