27-07-2002 17:35									#1
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Units building may depend on the ressources and of course knowledge you have. Why not add improvements as well.

Example Ship in shipyards, tanks in factory, or for scenarii for other special buildings.
ie I am working on a Reconquista mod where I would like Knights of religious orders to be built only in the Military Orders strongholds. They would be allowed to a special civilization but the prohibitive cost of the improvement would make it impossible to create these units in other places.

	27-07-2002 22:30									#2
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I hope that prerequisite improvements are included for units for modders in PtW as well.

	27-07-2002 22:40									#3
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yes, they'd be quite interesting.

i could see myself building more cathedrals if they let me get a Crusader or something

	28-07-2002 09:19									#4
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Now just what i was thinking... whens the last time you saw a tiny village build a tank without a factory?


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	28-07-2002 14:35									#5
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	28-07-2002 18:20									#6
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A good idea! You should need a Nuclear Plant to build nukes.

	28-07-2002 18:24									#7
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Not to mention The terrain "Swiss Alps" to build 'Banker/mercenary ski troops' .

	28-07-2002 19:21									#8
	Re: Units depending on some improvements Full PM-box? Change here!

quote: Originally posted by LouLong Units building may depend on the ressources and of course knowledge you have. Why not add improvements as well. Example Ship in shipyards, tanks in factory, or for scenarii for other special buildings. ie I am working on a Reconquista mod where I would like Knights of religious orders to be built only in the Military Orders strongholds. They would be allowed to a special civilization but the prohibitive cost of the improvement would make it impossible to create these units in other places.

good idea. I think its a bit ;ate for ptw though. i wonder if you can do this in the editor?

	29-07-2002 08:26									#9
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Actually, according to the big Patch Chat they had on Friday the 19th, improvements as prerequisites for units is quite high on Mike's wish-list for the PtW editor, along with Events!! So, let's all keep our fingers crossed!!!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

	29-07-2002 15:14									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Optimizer A good idea! You should need a Nuclear Plant to build nukes.

I don't quite agree on this one. Nuclear plants have about as much to do with nukes as Hoover dam has to do with submarines. A Mfg. plant would, on the other hand, be a more realistic requirement for nukes.

	29-07-2002 15:59									#11
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quote: Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker Actually, according to the big Patch Chat they had on Friday the 19th, improvements as prerequisites for units is quite high on Mike's wish-list for the PtW editor, along with Events!! So, let's all keep our fingers crossed!!! Yours, The_Aussie_Lurker.

This should be usful in my WW2 mod, bomb the hell out of'em till they no longer have factorys or subpens and cant build anything anymore!
And that events thing will be usful too, forcing Germany to break out into war with the units they have instead of sitting around peacfully building a massive world eatter army!

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quote: And that events thing will be usful too, forcing Germany to break out into war with the units they have instead of sitting around peacfully building a massive world eatter army!

I believe that the allies, with their great industries, would have won a prolonged arms race. Germany's advantage came from taking the initiative.

However, that's another story. Back to topic!

	03-08-2002 23:11									#13
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quote: Originally posted by mwaf I don't quite agree on this one. Nuclear plants have about as much to do with nukes as Hoover dam has to do with submarines. A Mfg. plant would, on the other hand, be a more realistic requirement for nukes.

actually, this is incorect.
nuclear plants originally were built to transform uranium to plutonium(the main ingrediant for nukes).
electricity is just a side effect...

	03-08-2002 23:41									#14
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The hot air from the tranformation is pumped through a pipe that goes through a tank of water, the high presure of the water drives a turbine that converts movment into electricity.

So its not really a side effect, its more of a result of a side effect being used very well!

	04-08-2002 20:52									#15
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hi ,

great idea's , but will they take them in account , ....?

have a nice day

	04-08-2002 23:16									#16
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quote: Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker Actually, according to the big Patch Chat they had on Friday the 19th, improvements as prerequisites for units is quite high on Mike's wish-list for the PtW editor, along with Events!! So, let's all keep our fingers crossed!!! Yours, The_Aussie_Lurker.

Quite glad to hear this, would go even further than just one improvement requirement for units.

Carrier: harbor, barracks, naval base, naval air station, shipyard.

After all the only place the US builds these now is Newport News and even during WWII only it was just 2-3 shipyards building the South Dakotas and Iowas.