27-07-2002 23:53									#1
	This is what happens when you don't get HG on deity Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Whoever gets HG first, wins.

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	28-07-2002 00:55									#2
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I don't get the point and relevance with this message. So we're now supposed to download that file and play until hell freezes... Right?

	28-07-2002 01:11									#3
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that didn't even make any sense you stupid ****. If you can't be intelligent then don't post. Is that so much to ask?

	28-07-2002 01:32									#4
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Sorry not being intelligent enough, and thanks for showing us how intelligent people post.

But my point was that you just simply stated that the first one to HG wins. Is this a contest or a succession game? You really don't have to be that brief. IMO.

	28-07-2002 02:16									#5
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he was pointing out the @ss kicking he gave oedo when he got HG first

	28-07-2002 03:50									#6
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Showing my ignorance again:

1) HG isn't so mandatory

2) Out of curiousity, who hosted?

	28-07-2002 04:36									#7
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probably Eyes.....
could've been Oedo

	28-07-2002 05:33									#8
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Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.

	28-07-2002 06:42									#9
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.

Oh well he was screwed from the start then

We are not going to pay any more attention to you Eyes until you post a photo of yourself on the Rogues Gallery thread

	28-07-2002 07:38									#10
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pipe down criminal

	28-07-2002 08:47									#11
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so if oedo got HG he would have won?

	28-07-2002 08:54									#12
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So eyes won... congrats.

But to claim that HG is the only factor is not proved by a single game... I've had games in duels where I've had it and won... and games where I've had it and gotten killed... HG is only one element. Good land, or excellent luck with huts are also key elements... because they can make or break a game just as much as having or not having HG

Plus, if you get beat to HG... nothing says you can't just go and take it from your opponent

	28-07-2002 09:21									#13
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Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

	28-07-2002 09:58									#14
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another good reason to avoid duels !!!!

	28-07-2002 10:28									#15
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yup...i like pyramids too Smartfart.....reproducing is key in civ..and pyramids make it a joy...and combined..lethal

	28-07-2002 10:36									#16
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quote: Originally posted by SmartFart Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

LH and pyramids are both better then HG, hg is a pretty useless early wonder. Its fun building it when playing players who don't know how to expand without it.

	28-07-2002 12:24									#17
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I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it.

Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose.
If you don't know how to use them...

	28-07-2002 15:19									#18
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too bad we can´t test eyes´ claim anymore, which is -as I think- as daring as my challenge to him was. he told me he will never play any deity games anymore.

but so it be, one can´t force people to their luck.

	28-07-2002 15:40									#19
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well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.

	28-07-2002 20:28									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.

Yeah... right....

	28-07-2002 21:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it. Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose. If you don't know how to use them...

I am talking about 1x 1x here. In 2x most wonders are useless. because you would get way further ahead creating trade routes with those cara's

	28-07-2002 21:08									#22
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HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

	28-07-2002 21:24									#23
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

I was replying to ming and his settings. On 2x 1x diety pyramids is useless, SOL is useless, bachs is useless. Now in a MP game it doesn't matter to much if you get happies or not, where as in a duel it gives a huge advantage to your production and attacking abilities.

Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG.

	29-07-2002 00:53									#24
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"Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG."

Exactly. You have to have HG in order to win. And in order to get HG first you have to have the better science. That game you had whales and everything around you. Your capital was a whale anda pheasant. Your second and third cities had whales. My city had wheat and forest. The only whale I had was 10 squares away. Whoever has the better science gets HG first, whoever has HG first wins the game. I rest my case.

	29-07-2002 02:55									#25
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Eyes do you think that about EVERY level...or are we talking about specific settings ?

	29-07-2002 04:30									#26
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I think he means deity games.

The way I see it HG is useful in MP 1x deity games but not crucial to victory. In duels the balance changes towards Eyes' statement, but there are other happy wonders; Mikes can come quite early, and unless the land is very mismatched one player shouldn't get both.

	29-07-2002 06:40									#27
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quote: Originally posted by SmartFart Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

I think so too - you get growth in every form of government.

	29-07-2002 09:45									#28
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pyramids help both the pre WLT*D and the post WLT*D

but obviously are much more beneficial early...especially in those PG games

	29-07-2002 12:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

If I got the Pyramids on deity x1x1,you'll never get Mike. And even if you do (highly improbable) I'll have Bach.

	29-07-2002 12:35									#30
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...and that's quite enough to kick your ass. Now...how about a game?