29-07-2002 07:58									#1
	Genghis Khan Animated Leaderhead Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Here's a preview of frames 1, 61, and 121 of my Genghis Khan Leaderset. This is the Ancient Times flc.

Any comments/suggestions on backgrounds/clothing for the next 3 ages?

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	29-07-2002 08:44									#2
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jesus christ man. you kick ass!

i really like the upper torso thing you do, rather than just the face.

keep it comming man!

	29-07-2002 09:02									#3
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX jesus christ man. you kick ass! i really like the upper torso thing you do, rather than just the face. keep it comming man!

Thanks, here the whole animation in gif format:Preview Animation

	29-07-2002 09:05									#4
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lol. pulsating!

	29-07-2002 10:32									#5
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that is sooo funny, yet coooool...

	29-07-2002 11:55									#6
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It's the Governor!

Is it just me or does it look like that guy's been taking steroids a weeeeee bit too long?

	29-07-2002 14:49									#7
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I've noticed that your leaderheads tend to no (or very little clothes) in the Ancient Era, even though the Firaxis ones do. Perhaps Ghengis could do with some armour?

	29-07-2002 21:30									#8
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quote: Originally posted by zulu9812 I've noticed that your leaderheads tend to no (or very little clothes) in the Ancient Era, even though the Firaxis ones do. Perhaps Ghengis could do with some armour?

1) During the Stone Age there really wasn't that much armor. The first armor most people think of was worn by the Spartans and Athenians and that was 600-400 BC, so take it back another 3400 years. Even in the art of this time people were mostly represented as naked both in combat and in sporting competitions.

2) Its a heck of a lot easier not to make specific armor for this period. I have lots of medieval stuff but not so much Ancient armor, can't use chainmail, and Amazons and Genghis don't really fit the toga catagory.

	29-07-2002 21:32									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Trip It's the Governor! Is it just me or does it look like that guy's been taking steroids a weeeeee bit too long?

HeHeHe. I wanted Genghis to look TOUGH. Somebody you DID NOT want to meet on the battlefield, as opposed to the ugly wino look Firaxis went with.

	29-07-2002 23:50									#10
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In the .gif, he looks VERY weird. His biceps seem to be pulsating, and although he looks pretty tough, it just isn't realistic. I mean - not all leaders looked good and were extremely fit. Take this into consideration. Here is a picture of a painting I found on the internet, supposedly of Genghis Khan.

	30-07-2002 02:13									#11
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb 1) During the Stone Age there really wasn't that much armor. The first armor most people think of was worn by the Spartans and Athenians and that was 600-400 BC, so take it back another 3400 years. Even in the art of this time people were mostly represented as naked both in combat and in sporting competitions.

The Ancient Age in CivIII isn't just the stone age! You're looking at Iron Age, Bronze Age, etc. CivIII's Middle Age begins with Pikemen and they were't around as a fighting formation until well into the Medievil period. So CivIII's Ancient Age actually spans 5000 years! All that time with no clothes on...

	30-07-2002 02:24									#12
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quote: Originally posted by zulu9812 The Ancient Age in CivIII isn't just the stone age! You're looking at Iron Age, Bronze Age, etc. CivIII's Middle Age begins with Pikemen and they were't around as a fighting formation until well into the Medievil period. So CivIII's Ancient Age actually spans 5000 years! All that time with no clothes on...

I only make tropical civs......

	31-07-2002 16:56									#13
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eh, just give 'em a hat or two, personally I think Genghis is the type of guy to walk around topless. Not to mention I like the eye candy.

	31-07-2002 17:43									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Noel-Marcus eh, just give 'em a hat or two, personally I think Genghis is the type of guy to walk around topless. Not to mention I like the eye candy.

Helen is up (August) at my website......

Any comments on the animation/pose?

	31-07-2002 17:45									#15
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quote: Originally posted by IXIRandyIXI In the .gif, he looks VERY weird. His biceps seem to be pulsating, and although he looks pretty tough, it just isn't realistic. I mean - not all leaders looked good and were extremely fit. Take this into consideration. Here is a picture of a painting I found on the internet, supposedly of Genghis Khan.

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that Genghis spent most of his life in a saddle conquering the world. The guy in the picture would probably kill the horse.

Kubai Khan (GK's grandson) would probably fit the picture better as he ruled from court in China, best of my knowledge.

	31-07-2002 18:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Any comments on the animation/pose?

It all looks good, dude, it's been said before but I'll say it again, your leaderheads rock.

	31-07-2002 19:14									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Noel-Marcus It all looks good, dude, it's been said before but I'll say it again, your leaderheads rock.

Thanks, Noel-Marcus, he won't be as muscularly impressive in the other eras since he'll be wearing armor, etc.

	01-08-2002 00:37									#18
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that Genghis spent most of his life in a saddle conquering the world. The guy in the picture would probably kill the horse. Kubai Khan (GK's grandson) would probably fit the picture better as he ruled from court in China, best of my knowledge.

I'm not a history major or anything, but I do believe you're right - Genghis Khan did spend most of his life on a horse conquering Asia. But horses are pretty strong creatures, so I'm sure one could've supported his weight. Anyways, it seems like the Genghis Khan you have here would be fairly heavy, as well.

The new leadermate of the month (August) looks great. I don't know much about Helen of Troy except that she was the wife of some Greek ruler who was kidnapped and was the reason for Greece attacking Troy, wtih the whole Trojan horse thing and yadda yadda...I think. I hope I'm right! So, I don't have any comments, except that it looks good.

	01-08-2002 00:40									#19
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GhengisFarb I CANT BELIEVE HOW GREAT YOU ARE IN MAKING THESE LEADERHEADS!!!!!!
I can't wait to put this one in my game!!!!!!!!!!!!

	01-08-2002 01:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by IXIRandyIXI I'm not a history major or anything, but I do believe you're right - Genghis Khan did spend most of his life on a horse conquering Asia. But horses are pretty strong creatures, so I'm sure one could've supported his weight. Anyways, it seems like the Genghis Khan you have here would be fairly heavy, as well.

No prob, my Genghis could probably carry the horse, where as the pictured Genghis would probably eat his.....

quote: Originally posted by IXIRandyIXI The new leadermate of the month (August) looks great. I don't know much about Helen of Troy except that she was the wife of some Greek ruler who was kidnapped and was the reason for Greece attacking Troy, wtih the whole Trojan horse thing and yadda yadda...I think. I hope I'm right! So, I don't have any comments, except that it looks good.

Thanks, I felt kinda weird making her blonde but all the images I found relating to her depicted her as blonde...

	01-08-2002 01:54									#21
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quote: Originally posted by nonnob3 GhengisFarb I CANT BELIEVE HOW GREAT YOU ARE IN MAKING THESE LEADERHEADS!!!!!! I can't wait to put this one in my game!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, I should have them (Genghis and Helen) done next week.

	01-08-2002 02:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by IXIRandyIXI I'm not a history major or anything, but I do believe you're right - Genghis Khan did spend most of his life on a horse conquering Asia. But horses are pretty strong creatures, so I'm sure one could've supported his weight.

Exactly. The Mongolian horses were famous for their small size and extreme strength and sturdiness.

Besides, the painting shown was an elder Genghis. Everybody gains weight when their old. Of course, when his conquering was in it's prime he was in his 50's, and that's why Firaxis' version looks the way it does. A weathered old man who's been through hell.

When Genghis was a youngster I'm sure he was pretty damn fit, although maybe not to the point in GhengisFarbs leaderhead. This may be a better Atilla, but maybe I'm just saying that cause I want him to make an one

Never-the-less, Farb is the best leaderhead maker out there and my mentor. I back him in everything he does, simply because his work is amazing. I'm waiting for this leaderhead to come out so I can make a personal mod to play as the Mongols.

	01-08-2002 06:59									#23
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quote: Originally posted by sween32 ... he was in his 50's, and that's why Firaxis' version looks the way it does. A weathered old man who's been through hell.

Apparently, you didn't read the explanation about the posse, the hornets, and the lump of gravy.

Although "been through hell" would explain the 4" cracks in his skin. They must of formed as the liquid was boiled out of his body!

Thanks for the support! I posted the preview of Helen of Troy and should have both of these sets done by the end of the weekend!

	01-08-2002 07:27									#24
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LoL Ghengis.

Though I think a few scars would do him well. He is/was a warrior after all.

	01-08-2002 07:48									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Apparently, you didn't read the explanation about the posse, the hornets, and the lump of gravy.

Apparently not. What the hell are you talking about?

	01-08-2002 08:04									#26
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That is the best leader-head I've ever seen Ghengis. Period.

I cant wait for August now!
BTW - How much is a subscription to "Play-Leader"?

	01-08-2002 13:43									#27
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GenghisFarB, your leaderheads are the best. Too bad, they are banned from civfanatics.

I haven't tried them in game yet (nor have seen the flc files), but the preview gifs are moving too fast IMHO.

Genghis' muscles seems like they could explode at any time... So, i think a little bit slower animation should be used, if the flc files are so fast too.

And again you are the best!

	01-08-2002 17:37									#28
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quote: Originally posted by sween32 Apparently not. What the hell are you talking about?

quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb in the This is historically incorrect! thread I did some research and discovered that in 1207 Genghis accidently rode over a large hornet nest. He was then stung in the face repeatedly for about 3 hours at which point his 'horde' (similiar to modern day American slang 'posse') was able to free him. Unfortunately, his face swelled up like a lumpy semi-hard ball of gravy. It was from this incident that Firaxis designed the image.

Honest.


I'm not making this up.


Americans don't lie.

	01-08-2002 18:03									#29
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quote: Originally posted by joespaniel That is the best leader-head I've ever seen Ghengis. Period. I cant wait for August now! BTW - How much is a subscription to "Play-Leader"?

Thanks, I had an idea to make a Leadermate Review mod when I get enough Leadermates where the ages would be the Birthday suit age, Lingerie Age, Bikini Age, and Wet T-shirt Age.

quote: Originally posted by hagen GenghisFarB, your leaderheads are the best. Too bad, they are banned from civfanatics. I haven't tried them in game yet (nor have seen the flc files), but the preview gifs are moving too fast IMHO. Genghis' muscles seems like they could explode at any time... So, i think a little bit slower animation should be used, if the flc files are so fast too. And again you are the best!

Thanks, they are too fast, but once you put them in the game, Civ3 uses its own timing and they are MUCH slower.

	02-08-2002 00:07									#30
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Now, I wouldn't call that Ghenghis Khan, but it is a cool leader nonetheless. I would make him leader of the Killas civilization.