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Who should we attack next?
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| France |
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21 |
61.76% |
| Germany |
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1 |
2.94% |
| Greece |
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1 |
2.94% |
| Persia |
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2 |
5.88% |
| Give Peace a Chance |
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7 |
20.59% |
| Too early to say |
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8 |
23.53% |
| Banana |
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2 |
5.88% |
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34 voters |
100% |
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wervdon
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What the poll said, who if anyone should we attack next?
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wervdon
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I went ahead and voted too early to say, but Im honestly leaning towards giving peace a chance until knights make hoplites obsolete.
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Sir Ralph
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Long live teh Schwampel!
Dec 2001 time: 06:21
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France is it, and the war must start very soon. We must catch the AI in REX mode, there they don't build military units, but only settlers and escorts. If we can win a war, we can win it now. Later, when the AIs settled down and are fixed on unit production, it will be too late.
We need the wines, and the mountainous area will give us high production cities later. Germany, Greece and Persia are definitely too far for footsoldiers (with Greece, hoplites are also a reason). To make us a strong and respected civ, France must be reduced (and destroyed later) and America eliminated in the 2nd or 3rd campaign.
And, GePap, I assure you: None of the 15 AI civs is our friend, even if their leaders may have a nice smile.
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I say France, but only because they're the closest (and most strategically viable) opponent. I think we need some time before we're able to attack (we must replenish our army beforehand, otherwise we're doomed from the start). Of course, there's the argument that France is "our strongest trading partner", but... what does that matter? The gold/techs/resources we gain from taking control of France would greatly exceed anything we receive from them via diplomacy. Plus, if we are successful, we'd have more trading options with the other civs.
I believe we can feasibly take France in a short amount of time, but we'd have to get started IMMEDIATELY. That would mean copious pop-rushing to get those units produced, and it may mean we would have to cut back on other endeavors. Our military would have to be roughly three times the size it is now in order to topple the whole of France, because they aren't as weak as the Americans were. The last thing we want is to send our remaining forces to capture ONE city, only to have Joan counterattack, regain the city, and move into our homeland. Of course, there's already plenty of debate on this subject on other threads, so we shouldn't worry that nobody will consider these things. 
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wervdon
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quote: I dont think knights make hopelites obsolete at all. |
Point conceded, despite my unfortunate choice of words, I only meant that knight vs hoplite is the same as knight vs pikeman, which everyone else will have by the time we get knights. Of course, the greeks will already have a ton of hoplites and the others might still be building pikeman/upgrading spearman or lack access to iron. In any case, a knight vs hoplite war is winnable, for that matter a swordsman vs hoplite war is winnable if you dont mind 2 to 1 losses..., and given the retreat of the knights shouldn't be that costly unless the greeks have walls or alot of size 7+ cities....
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