17-09-1999 23:39									#91
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I'm all for a second game. And keeping this current game.

	18-09-1999 00:38									#92
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I would like to do both too

The cheesy thing is pretty neat

It feels like your first turn is never going to end.

	18-09-1999 03:05									#93
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Turn 8 sent to Robm,

Well I'm all for the dutcheeses scenario if someone else will host the game....

	18-09-1999 03:47									#94
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Turn 8 to Ed

	18-09-1999 07:11									#95
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Turn 8 sent to Luk

	18-09-1999 14:06									#96
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There is a MAJOR PROBLEM with the dutcheese scenario as it doesn't work with PBEM.

(see other thread)

Oh well!! Maybe we can play it as a mod ?

	18-09-1999 17:17									#97
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Turn sent to Dev

Well, I for all proposition which accelerates game

	18-09-1999 17:37									#98
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Turn 8 to Frazer

	18-09-1999 19:34									#99
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Turn 9 to Monkey

	18-09-1999 20:23									#100
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Turn 9 to Robm

	19-09-1999 09:04									#101
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Turn 9 sent to Ed (same as Duckhunter?)

	19-09-1999 09:09									#102
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	19-09-1999 09:50									#103
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Yes, Duck Hunter = Ed
turn 9 sent to Becky

	19-09-1999 00:39									#104
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Hi everyone,

Fantastic news, dutcheese has made his quick start scenario work for PBEM games.

I volunteer to host the new game. Everyone currently playing this game (which at the moment seems to be moving quite fast) will get priority over other players but if any of you don’t want to play I will take in new players.

The game will run using the same rules as the current game.

One turn a day is possible most days but occasional glitches have to be expected. I will try to be tough but fair with players who are lagging. Communication is good, as it’s a lot easier to be patient and wait for your turn if you know there is a valid reason for it to be late.

If you want to play e-mail me at frazer@ndirect.co.uk with any suggestions you may have and who you want to play as etc. I will start a new thread for the game on Sunday evening UK time.

You will need to download the dutchcheese scenario pack discussed in the dutcheese thread. (I would put a link here but I don’t know how).

If anything stupid happens like your transport starts in a lake we will just have to start over.

Cheers,
Frazer

	19-09-1999 01:05									#105
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Turn 9 sent to Luk

	19-09-1999 01:41									#106
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Turn sent
Count me in Frazer

Ill play Russia

	19-09-1999 02:35									#107
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Turn 9 to Frazer

	19-09-1999 05:50									#108
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I'd like to play with the Mod, but after reading the thread a bit ago, it seems there are still some bugs to be worked out, I also want to be sure I can still play the regular PBEM games I am in without having to change files continously.

Let me know, Frazer.
Ed of the Germans

	19-09-1999 14:11									#109
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I've just downloaded the latest version (pack 5) and will give it a test.

Don, There's no new e-mail messages for me. Please resend the game.

	19-09-1999 17:42									#110
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Resent Turn 9 to Frazer

	19-09-1999 18:06									#111
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Turn 10 sent to Monkey

oops!! wrong icon it was supposed to be a

[This message has been edited by Frazer (edited September 19, 1999).]

	19-09-1999 18:12									#112
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turn 10 sent to robm.... anyone want to start up a story thread on how their civ is going? Might make for some interesting reading while we're waiting for the slow boring turns?

	19-09-1999 18:39									#113
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Turn 10 sent to Duck Hunter

	19-09-1999 18:50									#114
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Just had a worrying thought...

With the map currently set on gigantic do you think we will ever meet one another or will we play till the year 3000 without ever meeting anyone else? can we have the option to play over the year 3000?

I should have given more thought when i was planning this game... next game I'll organise I'll put in a small map so everyone meets each other earlier and also should make some interesting discussions on border disputes....

A dutcheese scenario on a small map certainly comes to my mind.....

	19-09-1999 19:06									#115
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The only thing with playing the Dutcheese Scenario on a small map is that the last guys to play the first turn wont have much real estate if any. 10 cities take up quite a chunk of land and the smaller the map the more kaos, the diplomacy would be interesting to say the least. The question is do you want all eight of us settling all 10 of our cities?

	19-09-1999 19:23									#116
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Well,

I personally havent checked out the dutcheese scenario yet but if all 10 settlers start out on the same square then it would take some time for the settlers to move out and settle cities unless you want all your 10 cities to severely overlap one another. Therefore the ones who take the later turns don't really have a MAJOR disadvantage unless they were unlucky enough to get a spot really close to another civ.

I was thinking maybe all future "Activision default" games I organize will be doughnut world and small map.... unless Activision introduces the accelerated start feature in pbem.

also I worry that by playing on a gigantic map, players will spend the first 100 turns not meeting most of the civs. By the time truly interesting diplomacy comes along the game might end at 3000AD!! that is why I'm hoping that we can play over the year 3000 AD if needed or it will feel like a waste of time playing the game!!!

	19-09-1999 19:41									#117
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I don't think it will take us that long to find each other. Of course it depends on how much adventuring we do. But with 8 players, I'm sure we'll be bumping into each other in another 30 turns. What would that equal... 2 months of play time? That is okay though, I came into this game realizing that the real fun takes about 150 turns to reach.

	19-09-1999 19:44									#118
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With the Dutcheese scenario you get 10 settlers with alot of movement. Enough movement to pretty well settle them all in one turn. Thats why the first players will have an advantage on a small map.

	19-09-1999 19:55									#119
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Thats another thing I hate about CTP is that you can only play to the year 3000 ( unless you get one of those mods). Why cant you just play as long as you want, but have an option for a time limit if your interested in a score. Isnt this how civ2 is kinda set up.
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	19-09-1999 19:57									#120
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The Statement of the Goverment of Slavic Confederation:

The Russian Empire terraformed in Turn 1 into Slavic Confederation, where all slavic(Russian, Polish, Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Czechs, Slovaks, Belarussian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian) nations have the equeal rights. In the diplomatic notes goverment of Slavic Conf. request other countries to use this name of our country

Its 10 turn and we are very closed to reach 20,000 population and we are preparing to explore the land with our settelers. We are very friendly to all other Nations and we want a peace to all nations. We want cooperate with all nations which will have a border with us.

First decision of Goverment of SC:

The area of 4 hexes from our city belong to Slavic Confederation. Every country which violate this territorum should know the consequences. It will be a WAR!

We are in central south of World and we ask all other nations to tell where they are.

The Head of Slavic Confederation,
Luk Castle

Non-official note:
Its very good that its huge map.
In the futher the game will be more interesting