01-08-2002 00:59									#1
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4 human players max

Map settings:

Large, Random map (Edited by a CMN)
Erosion, Native Life, Clouds - average
Oceans - Start with 30-50% of the map, and carve it to about 50%-70%

Game settings:

All victory conditions are on (Max players for co-op = 2)
Look First: On
Tech Stag: Off
Spoils of War: Off
Intense Rivalry: Off
Directed Research (pick your own techs)
No Unity Survey (map not visible)
Pods are scattered
No Random Events
Time Warp: Off
Iron Man: Off (allows players to save in middle of turn and return to game if something comes up)

Rules:

• Communications - None until in-game contact, obtain commlink, or build EG
• SE switch "quickies" forbidden - (obviously you can experiment to see what effect various SE choices have, but cannot change, play moves, then change back in the same turn)
• Council notification - immediate broadcast to all players (Post in the thread and e-mail to all immediately by player who has called elections, citing candidates and votes. After each player's turn, post in the thread the running totals)
• Do not place Stockpile Energy in your build queues
• Crawlers Upgrade anytime - OK
• Probe actions: Must choose vendetta option when probing other players, unless you have previously gained permission to probe by e-mail.
• You cannot bribe the AI on council votes nor to demand withdrawal of units
• Cannot use the right click feature for multiple drop moves to extend range (ie limited to 8 tiles unless owning the Space Elevator SP)
• Cannot use the 'set waypoint' feature for automatic worm hunting/lifecycle enhancements
• Must 'Accept' or 'Decline' an offered Pact or Treaty that the other player has indicated 'Accepted' before exiting the diplo box and playing the turn (i.e. no accepting pending treaties/pacts *after* declaring vendetta in the same turn )
• Cannot use the F4 feature (or the bases feature of the F2 screen) to change an infiltrated faction's workers to specialists.
* You cannot trade bases with the AI. It is okay to gift a base to the AI.

I will go UofP.

3 more players and 1 CMN needed.

p.s. Please don't sign up if you're going on vacation anytime soon.

	01-08-2002 06:54									#2
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I'll take Morgan.

	01-08-2002 07:20									#3
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Hey Darius, welcome aboard.

So that's:

SMH: UofP
Darius: Morgan

2 more players and 1 CMN needed now.

	01-08-2002 09:51									#4
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I'll take PK's.

Can we play without AI?

	01-08-2002 09:52									#5
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I'll take Hive.

	01-08-2002 10:00									#6
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Alright, so that's 4 players. We still need a CMN though.

I was thinking about no AI as well. What do the rest of you think?

Archaic: Hive
SMH: UofP callistosdarkside@rogers.com
Darius: Morgan
SmartFart: PKs SmartFart@pulp-fiction.com

Oh yes, and we'll need everyone's email address too. Just remember to double check them.

Last edited by smhfan86 on 01-08-2002 at 11:37

	01-08-2002 10:25									#7
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I forgot.

SmartFart@pulp-fiction.com

	01-08-2002 15:45									#8
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archaiceternal@hotmail.com

AI, no AI, doesn't really matter to me.

Last edited by Archaic on 01-08-2002 at 17:57

	01-08-2002 16:50									#9
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stephen.roy@snet.net

You didn't mention difficulty. I assume it's Transcend.

I don't care either way about including AI.

Who are you going to ask to create a map?

	01-08-2002 22:17									#10
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Doh, yeah, it's transcend. I could've sworn I mentioned that.

I was hoping some generous person might sign up to be the CMN to create the game for us. If no one signs up here, I'll make a thread asking for one.

	02-08-2002 04:37									#11
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I'll sign on as CMN. Choices:

Ultimate Builder Map or random?

Souped-up AI set with permanent pacts with each other? OR:

Regular AI pushovers? OR:

No AI?

	02-08-2002 06:02									#12
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Thanks, DD!

My votes are: random map (suitably edited to be fair), and either regular AI or no AI.

	02-08-2002 08:12									#13
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I'll go with just about anything. Thanx for settin' this up DD.

	02-08-2002 09:40									#14
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Thanks for volunteering DD.

I'm with Darius, ramdom edited map, and regular ai or no ai.

	02-08-2002 11:52									#15
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I've got no real preference.

	02-08-2002 16:40									#16
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Just a thought. How about playing 1st 30-40 turns on TCP IP and then PBEM-ing? It really could speed things up and it will take only half an hour.

	02-08-2002 16:51									#17
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I wouldn't be able to manage that I'm afraid. Got far too many Uni commitments to be able to spend a night gaming.

	02-08-2002 16:56									#18
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It's always hard to get four people together at once, especially when at least one is 14 hours different.

	02-08-2002 19:31									#19
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To take the place of TCP/IP, the game can be accelerated a bit by adding two monoliths to everyone's start sites. I also suggest allowing the stockpile energy bug; it speeds up the early game.

Roster
Gaians: AI
Hive: Archaic archaiceternal@hotmail.com
UofP: SMH callistosdarkside@rogers.com
Morgan: Darius stephen.roy@snet.net
Spartans: AI
Believers: AI
PK's: SmartFart SmartFart@pulp-fiction.com

	02-08-2002 23:41									#20
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2104 sent to Archaic. The first three moves were played for you by the AI.

	02-08-2002 23:41									#21
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Archaic, I've noticed your turn pushing in RTT has been slowed down tremendously, and you say you've got a lot of uni committments.

If you can't play the game on a speedy basis, especially in the early going, then maybe it'd be best to find someone who can.

	02-08-2002 23:45									#22
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DD, so does that mean I don't get to choose my free tech?

	03-08-2002 08:15									#23
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Don't worry. My Uni commitments won't interfere with the game too much from this point on. I should be averaging 1 turn/day/game again for at least the next month or so.
Will we be having a seperate turn tracking thread for this game?

	03-08-2002 11:04									#24
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2104 to darius.

I think we should think of a name for this game, and start a new turn-tracking thread.

	03-08-2002 22:51									#25
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2104 to SmartFart.

I agree, we need a name. I'm terrible at thinking of names, so someone go ahead.

	04-08-2002 03:09									#26
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Call it 'package of Doom'
or 'who Cares about Planet' -WCAP
or 'Funguseaters Paradise'
or 'The Good the Bad and Morgan'
or'4someFeet' or BigMac's Paradise
or Treehugers United
or A Walk in DilithiumDad's Park
or MyOtherCarIsA4-1-2Rover
or TidalWaves
or CCF -Credits come First
or FCK-First Come Kill
or REAP- Research Exterminate Annilhilate n' Pillage

	04-08-2002 16:48									#27
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2105...to Archaic.

Map is visible. No black squares. Is that something we have agreed upon earlier? Or its a bug?

	04-08-2002 16:55									#28
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Turn to SMH

*Shrugs*

	04-08-2002 19:51									#29
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Must have been an option that DD selected when setting up the game.

	04-08-2002 23:17									#30
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05 to darius.

True about the map, even though I stated in the settings for it to be not visible.

Oh well, just a game.

as for name, I like Package of Doom. Thank Main Brain.

Here's the new tracking thread:

http://64.246.32.51/~admin1/forums/...&threadid=57933