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I like the first smile better. She looks so much more...cute.

This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. As a matter of fact, I registered for this forum just to give you praise and feedback on this.

Wow, thanks zzzombie. That's two for the old smile, and for the new. I guess the old one it is.

Oh and for Marquis de Sodaq and CharlesBHoff, I'll make a more 'classic' leaderhead for you guys if you can come with the historical person to model it after. (I'm running out ideas)

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if breasts bounced that much when women changed facial expressions or moved their arms, men would not be able to eat, speak, or sleep.

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if breasts bounced that much when women changed facial expressions or moved their arms, men would not be able to eat, speak, or sleep.

These be strategeric leaderheads for PTW. Your opponents wilt be looking at your bouncin' and not your treaty specifcs.........

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These be strategeric leaderheads for PTW. Your opponents wilt be looking at your bouncin' and not your treaty specifcs.........
Yeah, but they'll want to piss Helen of Troy off because she looks so hot when she is ticked.

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Something about the hand in the air and the tilt of the head in the first frame make her look retarted in it. Like she has mental problems. And the way the lips are in frame 61, I would recommend you make her smile more like something that old Jessica Rabbit has at first. The angry her is perfect though...I would start from there and work backwards...redoing what was done in the first frames if that is possible.

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Suberb work!

Don't let them discourage you Genghis!

Any chance of a nice Cleopatra leader?

Hope so!

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Yes, it would be nice to see all of the leaderheads redone by you, Ghengis!

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Yes, it would be nice to see all of the leaderheads redone by you, Ghengis!


Problem is I only have so many props. To make them authentic, I usually buy clothing packs.

Now when I get done with this current group say around Aug 12, I'm going to be mass producing 16 sets for a medieval fantasy mod and I won't have to worry about authenticity as I'll be making them all up.

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Here's a pic of frames 1, 61, and 121 (Happy, Neutral, Furious) for the Industrial Age flc for my Helen of Troy leaderhead set.

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And finally here's a pic of frames 1, 61, and 121 (Happy, Neutral, Furious) for the Modern Times flc for my Helen of Troy leaderhead set.

Should have the pcx's/bubblehead ready for download by the end of the weekend.

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Great work!

The Industrial Age clothing doesn't really look, eh, "Industrial Agish", though...

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Great work!

The Industrial Age clothing doesn't really look, eh, "Industrial Agish", though...


Yeah, I went with a 1940's-50's style cause my other dresses looked too renaissancey.

UPDATE: Leaderbubbles are done, I just have to pose her for the End O' Game pcx's and then she ready for playtesting.

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The only real problem I see with her is that she looks happier neutral than she does happy. The eyebrows look questioning when she is happy. Happy has no question about it. The happy face looks to me like it would be better as a neutral face.

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The only real problem I see with her is that she looks happier neutral than she does happy. The eyebrows look questioning when she is happy. Happy has no question about it. The happy face looks to me like it would be better as a neutral face.


I agree, I noticed that after I had made the flics. Oh, well I may redo it later but for now I'm gonna leave it so I can finsh it the set up.

Here's some shots of the pcx's at the end of the game:

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i allready expressed my respect of your abilities earlier. but the bruises and scratches are real very very authentic! well done!

i also like your choice of clothing. that 40s look could actually go through as industrial age, because that bow looks a bit wild-westy (industrialisation was going on in europe and eastern US).

well done anyway.

open up a new thread if you need any ideas from the community... i'd be happy to help!

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Wow, thanks zzzombie. That's two for the old smile, and for the new. I guess the old one it is.

Oh and for Marquis de Sodaq and CharlesBHoff, I'll make a more 'classic' leaderhead for you guys if you can come with the historical person to model it after. (I'm running out ideas)


Go to than public lib an look for books on history or fashion or both. Woman fashion didnot change that much in the ancient or medival world. If than old roman necklace is found
the historian can detrime what century the piece is from.
Woman dressing sytle where base more on religious belief, culture value and where you are from or where you are. Also
climate you are in also play than part. Unless there was than major culture or religious upheath woman fashion last at least than 1000 year.
Today woman fashion change radical very 3 month in the
hight fashion world, while in the real world woman wear what is comfortable or make then look good. I remember when the mini and micro shirt came out in the late 60's and early 70's alot of older middle age woman where turn
off to the fashion world trying to make then look like hooker( their opion) they brought shirt that went 1 inch below the knee. Afew year back the post--holocaust world
look was in where people wearing hight fastion look like homeless people, then their try to bring in the bare breast
look in fashion than their didnot do it right.
Than funny thing awhile back some big fashion houses close drown they hight fastion as selling hight fashion is than money loser to then. The dirtly secert of the fashion ind is that the real money is make than selling alots of wash and wear simple clothes to the common person.

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i allready expressed my respect of your abilities earlier. but the bruises and scratches are real very very authentic! well done!

I really like that pose she's in for the conquered shot and plan on using it for frame 121 in another female leaderhead set.

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open up a new thread if you need any ideas from the community... i'd be happy to help!


I'm thinking of opening up a leader request thread, as I've been hetting lots of emails with leaderhead requests.

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Go to than public lib an look for books on history or fashion or both. Woman fashion didnot change that much in the ancient or medival world. If than old roman necklace is found
the historian can detrime what century the piece is from.
Woman dressing sytle where base more on religious belief, culture value and where you are from or where you are. Also
climate you are in also play than part. Unless there was than major culture or religious upheath woman fashion last at least than 1000 year.
Today woman fashion change radical very 3 month in the
hight fashion world, while in the real world woman wear what is comfortable or make then look good. I remember when the mini and micro shirt came out in the late 60's and early 70's alot of older middle age woman where turn
off to the fashion world trying to make then look like hooker( their opion) they brought shirt that went 1 inch below the knee. Afew year back the post--holocaust world
look was in where people wearing hight fastion look like homeless people, then their try to bring in the bare breast
look in fashion than their didnot do it right.
Than funny thing awhile back some big fashion houses close drown they hight fastion as selling hight fashion is than money loser to then. The dirtly secert of the fashion ind is that the real money is make than selling alots of wash and wear simple clothes to the common person.


I'm sorry but I do not understand a word of this!

The new Helen Pcx images are really fantastic though.

Love the conquered pix, you can imagine her saying;
"You swines! I'll never reveal the location of the death star plans!"

Or something!

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: this is great. The finished product turned out better than I had hoped. Great work GhengisFarb, and thanks for such a great leaderhead.

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I'm sorry but I do not understand a word of this!

The new Helen Pcx images are really fantastic though.

Love the conquered pix, you can imagine her saying;
"You swines! I'll never reveal the location of the death star plans!"

Or something!


Woman fashion didnot change that much in the ancient world or the medival world. It wasnot untril the 18th century that the idear of fashion even took hold. There where alway minor element add to clothing thourgh out the
centuries. The Middle age add two or three new hat to women to wear. In the middle age there where no potock in
men pants so men use potock book like the woman did to carry their money and personal itens.

Religion and culture along with climate play arole in what men and woman wore as clothing. People in Northern Eupore wore warm clothing because of the cold winter their have. While the Arab clothing was design to potect you from the damagous sunlight which can cause deadly sunburn while keeping you cool by being loose so the air
can cirrurate around your body. In the Arabian desert the daytime tempurate in their summer can reach 130 f to 150 f measure in the shade add 40 to 50 f to the number above to get the possible direct sunlight tempurate.

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Okay, I went back and gave her a better smile in frame 1, and toned down the bounce quite a bit. I replaced the preview pics with the new ones and updated the preview gifs at my website.

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Looks much happier, though silly like Gandhi. But it will do. It's 500 times better than anything I could make.

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Looks much happier, though silly like Gandhi. But it will do. It's 500 times better than anything I could make.


It was one of those things, where I had to choose between realistic looking or making it easy to identify her mood in the foreign advisor screen. I think it should be easy to tell what her mood is.

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This is the pic I have of Joan of Arc that I think best exemplifies her. If you were needing a pic that is.

And whats with all the big boobs on your models?

The models are fantastic, I'm just not a big boob guy...

Keep up the great work. =)

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And whats with all the big boobs on your models?


Big boobs bounce better. Boadicca and Joan will have much smaller boobs though.

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Helen is done will have her uploaded today. Will Probably be available off my website by lunchtime.

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Helen of Troy was in than a peroid of history where woman where rular direct or indirect. In bronze age greek woman own the land and the inhertian of land went throught the woman. All of this change when the Iron age invador came to greek slowly put than end to woman power as their where than societry that treat woman like provity.

In Bronze Age Crete where the Miano rule, Than Counil make up of the Hight Prietress and the Queen ruler they land, the king power where very limitly. Some post where male only post like huntman, other post both man and woman held like soidler and guards, some post where all females or men who where encum(ball cut off) like priestress
and priests.


I do not agree. First Priam was the king and Helen was just the captive of his son, the prince Paris (among 50 sons if I remeber well) and remember that Ulysses' wife Penelope could not rule alone, although she tried to postpone her necessary second mariage succesfully (undoing at night what she knitted during the day).
Your example of Crete and the Minoans is good but inapropriate since even though they strongly influenced continental Greece, their cultures were really different.
Women were part of the booty and if the civ was not developped enough to park the women in gynecees yet, they were on their way.

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Wow, who would've thought American rap and hip hop had classical Greek origins....

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I do not agree. First Priam was the king and Helen was just the captive of his son, the prince Paris (among 50 sons if I remeber well) and remember that Ulysses' wife Penelope could not rule alone, although she tried to postpone her necessary second mariage succesfully (undoing at night what she knitted during the day).
Your example of Crete and the Minoans is good but inapropriate since even though they strongly influenced continental Greece, their cultures were really different.
Women were part of the booty and if the civ was not developped enough to park the women in gynecees yet, they were on their way.


Then by your logic England will be rule by King Phile not Queen Liz the current Queen. In Ancient Epgty and Ancient Israel some King married they mother and all of their sister so their will have control of the land thought their mother or sisters. DNA test confix that some Pharaoh did marry and have children by their mother and sisters.
I than not say that insent is wrong or right one of the Greater Pharaoh was born of than insert relateship. If you
where to read some of the old testment stories in a certain way you would come up with than hidden insertory
relateship of some of their king, can't do DNA testing on this as can not be certain of the ident of bone found in Israel.
Even when than King rule the Queen have alot of influence in the court. One Grand Vizar in the Truk Empire
was kill because the Sultan favorite wife complanit about
him. In French the Queen held court on matter of the heart which where legality blind. Also some of the Queen held than Women Court where woman where able to bring woman matter to the attendence of the Queen and
thought the Queen to the King. Many King listern to their
Queen advise on certain cases before then. Only a fool will not listern to than wise woman.

Plus I think Helen of Troy husband was not upset with her leaveing him with than other man he and the other Greek barbarian want than excuse to wage war against Troy for ecomoncy reason.

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Then by your logic England will be rule by King Phile not Queen Liz the current Queen. In Ancient Epgty and Ancient Israel some King married they mother and all of their sister so their will have control of the land thought their mother or sisters. DNA test confix that some Pharaoh did marry and have children by their mother and sisters.
I than not say that insent is wrong or right one of the Greater Pharaoh was born of than insert relateship. If you
where to read some of the old testment stories in a certain way you would come up with than hidden insertory
relateship of some of their king, can't do DNA testing on this as can not be certain of the ident of bone found in Israel.
Even when than King rule the Queen have alot of influence in the court. One Grand Vizar in the Truk Empire
was kill because the Sultan favorite wife complanit about
him. In French the Queen held court on matter of the heart which where legality blind. Also some of the Queen held than Women Court where woman where able to bring woman matter to the attendence of the Queen and
thought the Queen to the King. Many King listern to their
Queen advise on certain cases before then. Only a fool will not listern to than wise woman.

Plus I think Helen of Troy husband was not upset with her leaveing him with than other man he and the other Greek barbarian want than excuse to wage war against Troy for ecomoncy reason.

 
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