01-08-2002 06:46									#1
	Helen of Troy Animated Leaderhead Preview Tired of ads?

Here's a pic of frames 1, 61, and 121 (Happy, Neutral, Furious) for the Ancient Times flc for my Helen of Troy leaderhead set.

Feel free to post comments, suggestions, and any ideas for the nest three ages.

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Last edited by Gramphos on 18-10-2003 at 22:40

	01-08-2002 07:24									#2
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Where do you find the time to do all this stuff?!

Good work though, they look real nice. You might want to change the expressions a bit though. The first one looks questioning, the second one suggestive, and the third one is just plain scary.

	01-08-2002 07:54									#3
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Oh my Lord!!!!!!! You are the GOD of LEADERHEADS!!!!!!!!
There are no other words to describe your talents!!!!!!!
Unbelievable!!!!!

	01-08-2002 08:21									#4
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I kind of agree the first one could be a little happier, but all in all its great!
The background is phenomenal.

You are a fiend!

	01-08-2002 09:31									#5
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Sounds like "Babe-e-loanya" has found her new leader!

	01-08-2002 10:55									#6
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And here we have it, the face that launched a thousand ships. It looks great!

Now I only have one question, Helen didn't exactly ruled Troy, that was Prince Parris' domain. Although a Greek sub-citizen and wife, she didn't rule the Athenian (or was it Spartan) City State. So, I know I'm being a bummer and all but I got to ask, what civ should you use her as the leaderhead for?

But once again Ghengis, great job!

	01-08-2002 14:30									#7
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Helen of Troy was in than a peroid of history where woman where rular direct or indirect. In bronze age greek woman own the land and the inhertian of land went throught the woman. All of this change when the Iron age invador came to greek slowly put than end to woman power as their where than societry that treat woman like provity.

In Bronze Age Crete where the Miano rule, Than Counil make up of the Hight Prietress and the Queen ruler they land, the king power where very limitly. Some post where male only post like huntman, other post both man and woman held like soidler and guards, some post where all females or men who where encum(ball cut off) like priestress
and priests.

	01-08-2002 17:28									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Where do you find the time to do all this stuff?! Good work though, they look real nice.

Thanks. It actually takes me about an hour to get the positions and 'bounce' together. The rendering (actually making the final animation) takes 1-4 hours per animation, but I just start it before I go to work/ before I go to bed. The females takes about an hour and the males take closer to the 4 hour mark.

quote: Originally posted by Trip You might want to change the expressions a bit though. The first one looks questioning, the second one suggestive, and the third one is just plain scary.

I noticed they didn't look so hot after I shrunk them down. I was going with a snooty "I'm the most gorgeous woman in the world"/supermodel look so I wanted her to convey a "you're not worthy" impression.

	01-08-2002 17:30									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Noel-Marcus And here we have it, the face that launched a thousand ships. It looks great! Now I only have one question, Helen didn't exactly ruled Troy, that was Prince Parris' domain. Although a Greek sub-citizen and wife, she didn't rule the Athenian (or was it Spartan) City State. So, I know I'm being a bummer and all but I got to ask, what civ should you use her as the leaderhead for? But once again Ghengis, great job!

Thanks, I figured if Joan of Arc could be a French leader Helen of Troy could be Greek. One of my goals is to have a male and female choice for each civ.

	01-08-2002 22:22									#10
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You could make a better Joan of Arc also. I mean... bald? Seriously? What were those guys thinking?

	01-08-2002 23:12									#11
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hey GhengisFarb, you're just incredible ... well done!

i agree with the previous poster, a rework of jeanne d'arc (and the ugly cathy and liz) would be great

further so! great talent

	01-08-2002 23:58									#12
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Anybody have any historical images/portaits of Liz, Catherine, or Joan?

	02-08-2002 00:04									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Noel-Marcus Now I only have one question, Helen didn't exactly ruled Troy, that was Prince Parris' domain. Although a Greek sub-citizen and wife, she didn't rule the Athenian (or was it Spartan) City State. So, I know I'm being a bummer and all but I got to ask, what civ should you use her as the leaderhead for?

Who cares? You can call her Denise or Britney or whatever you want. It's not a problem unless you are making a historic Troy scenario.

	02-08-2002 01:02									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus It's not a problem unless you are making a historic Troy scenario.

Hmmm.... "The conquest of Troy" all these little Greek civs vying for the Helen.

	02-08-2002 06:44									#15
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WOW. She's hot .

I will have to use her when you release her.

	02-08-2002 12:51									#16
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb One of my goals is to have a male and female choice for each civ.

Sweet, so who are you going to use for France, England and Russia?

	02-08-2002 15:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Noel-Marcus Sweet, so who are you going to use for France, England and Russia?

France: Charlemagne
England: Not sure, maybe Alfred the Great
Russia: Probably Peter the Great

	02-08-2002 16:28									#18
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Great work! Look forward to downloading the finished version.

	02-08-2002 16:35									#19
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Here's the pice of frames 1, 61, and 121 of the Middle Ages. I made her smile more in the first frame, if everyone likes this better I'll redo the Ancient Age.

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	02-08-2002 16:51									#20
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The graphics are great and you did a fine job. However, in the 3rd picture (far right) she looks like she is giving herself a breast exam.

	02-08-2002 18:11									#21
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El Civ: Well, all women are deathly afraid of getting breast cancer. Have to watch out for it!

GhengisFarb: Personally, I liked the first one more. This new smile just looks....strange.

Anyways, you're doing a great job on these leaderheads! Especially the clothing on Helen this time, it looks so nice!

I'll get to work on finding you some historical pictures of those leaders.

	02-08-2002 18:22									#22
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quote: Originally posted by El Civ The graphics are great and you did a fine job. However, in the 3rd picture (far right) she looks like she is giving herself a breast exam.

Thanks, breast exam... ..I didn't think to ask her at the time what she waas doing, so maybe you're right.

	02-08-2002 18:24									#23
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quote: Originally posted by IXIRandyIXI GhengisFarb: Personally, I liked the first one more. This new smile just looks....strange. Anyways, you're doing a great job on these leaderheads! Especially the clothing on Helen this time, it looks so nice! I'll get to work on finding you some historical pictures of those leaders.

Thanks, okay that's one for the old smile, 0 for the new. If you have a preference you better get it in today cause tonight I'll probably finish her up.

	02-08-2002 19:40									#24
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quote: Originally posted by exsanguination WOW. She's hot .

An anorexic with good cause to sue her plastic surgeon is hot? Put some flesh on her bones! Would brave heroes have fought a ten year war for a wisp? NO! Make her ripe! She's a well-fed queen, not a starving street urchin!

	02-08-2002 21:16									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq An anorexic with good cause to sue her plastic surgeon is hot?

this one: yes

quote: Put some flesh on her bones! Would brave heroes have fought a ten year war for a wisp? NO! Make her ripe! She's a well-fed queen, not a starving street urchin!

helen is describes as beautiful. and for some people's taste, this girl can be called so too (that is, with modern days taste, not ancient).

play cathy if you prefer well fed queens ...

	03-08-2002 03:36									#26
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Enough of the I like those boobs...... but these boobs are too warm...... and I wanna play with her boobs...... to see if she has breast cancer......

Hey, people! Tell me which facial espression you prefer the first one, or the second one, I'm waiting on feedback so I can finish her up!

	03-08-2002 04:22									#27
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Upon further review, I have noticed two things that you should probably fix. One thing is that when it runs, her boobs glitch. There is a line in the bouncing that messes it up and makes her boobs look like they have four parts instead of two.

The second thing is that her lips have really funny action like Gandhi or something when she is happy and neutral.

She looks awesome when she is mad though.

Overall:

	03-08-2002 04:26									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus Upon further review, I have noticed two things that you should probably fix. One thing is that when it runs, her boobs glitch. There is a line in the bouncing that messes it up and makes her boobs look like they have four parts instead of two.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it.

quote: Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus The second thing is that her lips have really funny action like Gandhi or something when she is happy and neutral. She looks awesome when she is mad though. Overall:

Guess, we'll have to keep her mad. Seriously, if more people would comment on the expressions we might get this set done........

	03-08-2002 06:39									#29
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I like the first smile better. She looks so much more...cute.

This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. As a matter of fact, I registered for this forum just to give you praise and feedback on this.

	03-08-2002 06:44									#30
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The ancient people like woman who where abit on the heavy side not looking like they didnot eat ever.