01-08-2002 23:22									#1
	Nine Governments Mod Introduced Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I would really appreciate it if I could get some of you brave souls to play test this mod before it goes into the finished area. There is currently no new artwork or anything. It is simply 3 new governments at this point. Before it is released, I plan to change some combat aspects, tweak a few more rules, and possibly introduce some new units (I am terrible with art stuff, so these units would be ripoffs from talented people. )

quote: Nine Governments Mod ReadMe Nine Governments Mod v1.0 ReadMe for Civilization III v1.29 by Laser GOVERNMENTS - ************************************************** Government: ANARCHY Prerequisite - NONE Corruption and Waste - CATASTROPHIC Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - ALL UNITS FREE Per: Town - N/A City - N/A Metropolis - N/A Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 1 Assimilation Chance - 1% Draft Limit - 0 Military Police Limit - 0 Hurrying Production - CANNOT HURRY War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - CONSCRIPT Spies Are - CONSCRIPT Immune to - NONE Flags: TRANSITION TYPE STANDARD TILE PENALTY ************************************************** Government: DESPOTISM Prerequisite - NONE Corruption and Waste - RAMPANT Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 4 City - 4 Metropolis - 4 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 1% Draft Limit - 2 Military Police Limit - 2 Hurrying Production - FORCED LABOR War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - REGULAR Spies Are - REGULAR Immune to - NONE Flags: DEFAULT TYPE REQUIRES MAINTENANCE STANDARD TILE PENALTY ************************************************** Government: MONARCHY Prerequisite - MONARCHY Corruption and Waste - PROBLEMATIC Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 2 City - 4 Metropolis - 8 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 2% Draft Limit - 2 Military Police Limit - 3 Hurrying Production - PAID LABOR War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - REGULAR Spies Are - REGULAR Immune to - NONE Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE ************************************************** Government: COMMUNISM Prerequisite - COMMUNISM Corruption and Waste - COMMUNAL Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 75 Per: Town - 3 City - 6 Metropolis - 9 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 35% Draft Limit - 2 Military Police Limit - 4 Hurrying Production - FORCED LABOR War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - REGULAR Spies Are - ELITE Immune to - NONE Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE ************************************************** Government: REPUBLIC Prerequisite - THE REPUBLIC Corruption and Waste - NUISANCE Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 0 City - 0 Metropolis - 0 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 2% Draft Limit - 1 Military Police Limit - 0 Hurrying Production - PAID LABOR War Weariness - LOW Espionage: Diplomats Are - VETERAN Spies Are - REGULAR Immune to - NONE Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE STANDARD TRADE BONUS ************************************************** Government: DEMOCRACY Prerequisite - DEMOCRACY Corruption and Waste - MINIMAL Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 0 City - 0 Metropolis - 0 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 3 Assimilation Chance - 4% Draft Limit - 1 Military Police Limit - 0 Hurrying Production - PAID LABOR War Weariness - HIGH Espionage: Diplomats Are - ELITE Spies Are - REGULAR Immune to - INITIATE PROPAGANDA Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE STANDARD TRADE BONUS ************************************************** Government: FASCISM Prerequisite - NATIONALISM Corruption and Waste - NUISANCE Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 4 City - 8 Metropolis - 12 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 1% Draft Limit - 3 Military Police Limit - 2 Hurrying Production - FORCED LABOR War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - REGULAR Spies Are - VETERAN Immune to - NONE Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE STANDARD TILE PENALTY STANDARD TRADE BONUS ************************************************** Government: THEOCRACY Prerequisite - THEOLOGY Corruption and Waste - PROBLEMATIC Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 1 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 4 City - 6 Metropolis - 8 Rate Cap - 7 Worker Rate - 2 Assimilation Chance - 5% Draft Limit - 3 Military Police Limit - 3 Hurrying Production - PAID LABOR War Weariness - NONE Espionage: Diplomats Are - REGULAR Spies Are - REGULAR Immune to - INITIATE PROPAGANDA Flags: REQUIRES MAINTENANCE ************************************************** Government: CORPORATE REPUBLIC Prerequisite - THE CORPORATION Corruption and Waste - MINIMAL Unit Support Costs: Cost/Unit - 3 Free Units - 0 Per: Town - 0 City - 0 Metropolis - 0 Rate Cap - 10 Worker Rate - 3 Assimilation Chance - 4% Draft Limit - 1 Military Police Limit - 0 Hurrying Production - PAID LABOR War Weariness - LOW Espionage: Diplomats Are - VETERAN Spies Are - VETERAN Immune to - NONE Flags: STANDARD TRADE BONUS **************************************************

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	01-08-2002 23:23									#2
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This space reserved for further updates.

Please tell me of any problems you encounter if you do encounter any. Also, all feedback is welcome, though all the current governments are staying in the mod, I may still tweak them and I might add some more.

	02-08-2002 00:26									#3
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Ah, at last a government mod without countless, almost-similar govts!

	02-08-2002 01:56									#4
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I don't know whether you are being facetious or serious?

But if you like the bland 6 governments offered in Civ1 and no more, this mod isn't for you. No bones about it. If you like a variety of governments, then you'll like this mod. Also, it is still in the testing phase and I would have more drastic changes in governments except that the darn editor doesn't allow for much.

	02-08-2002 03:38									#5
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I am serious - what I mean is that I am tired of all these mods with like 20 governments.

	03-08-2002 03:40									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Optimizer I am serious - what I mean is that I am tired of all these mods with like 20 governments.

Oh, thanks then. I really don't think I will add any more governments to this mod either, because there is just no way to really make them much different anymore. Like I said, the editor doesn't allow for much.

Anyways, I would really appreciate it if people would try this out and tell me if they find any problems with it or if they think anything needs tweaking.

Thanks in advance.

	03-08-2002 15:47									#7
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Looks good, though the ruler titles are still missing, and I have no clue what they should be called...

EDIT: I just saw your mod file, there you had the title rules, just thought you had forgotten about it, since you didn't mention it above...

	03-08-2002 23:38									#8
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Finaly more govts but as I see the statistics isn't fascism a bit too powerfull: much unit support and low corruption and the tile penalty isnt that bad anymore in the industrial and modern age.

	04-08-2002 02:35									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Mattaba Finaly more govts but as I see the statistics isn't fascism a bit too powerfull: much unit support and low corruption and the tile penalty isnt that bad anymore in the industrial and modern age.

I agree that corruption should be higher for Fascism - problematic or even rampant. Regarding the tile penalty: I think it's pretty bad (and therefore good for gameplay), because you will lose 1 food or 1 shield on nearly every worked tile once railroads arrive.

	04-08-2002 02:41									#10
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Fascism should have a low science rate cap, too. It is a really anti-intellectual ideology.

	04-08-2002 04:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Looks good, though the ruler titles are still missing, and I have no clue what they should be called... EDIT: I just saw your mod file, there you had the title rules, just thought you had forgotten about it, since you didn't mention it above...

I don't think I forgot anything, but if you find anything that I missed, let me know ASAP so that I can fix it. If you check the civilizations screen, you will see that I made the Americans favored gov. Corporate Republic, the Germans favor Fascism, and some religious civs favor Theocracy. I didn't put all that in the readme...or even here.

I believe that Republic is now required to reach the second era as well.

All I put in the readme was the changes to the governments, and not even all of them. I didn't put in rates compared to other governments because I found that tedious; however, I did put the rates in the game...they aren't all zero. I just didn't type them up.

	04-08-2002 04:54									#12
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With regards to Fascism, I am thinking I will tweak it to be a little weaker. Maybe take away some military support: 3/6/9 : town/city/metropolis. Give Communism 4/8/12. Because Communism is really just crap as far as the game designers were concerned. It really sucks. I want all these governments to be viable depending on your strategy. I want to keep Fascism strong in science mainly because of the way the German tanks ran through the Maginot Line. I don't think of a technologically backward country when I think of a Fascist nation. I think of a smart, powerful country that scares the crap out of the other countries. It is likely that Nazi Germany would have succeeded in conquering Europe if the whole world wasn't against them.

	04-08-2002 04:59									#13
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Btw, I want to thank each of you for taking the time to play this mod and tell me what needs fixing. Also, can I ask someone that likes to play Republic -> Democracy to try out Corporate Republic and tell me their opinion on it? I am gunning for a certain effect with this government. I don't mind if it makes Rebublic obsolete, but I hope it doesn't make Democracy obsolete, just another way to do things.

	04-08-2002 13:51									#14
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A quick comment on Corporate Republic: Even with unit support costs of 3, I'm afraid that the 'doesn't require maintenance' flag is far too powerful. I'll have to test this, though.

	06-08-2002 01:53									#15
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Yes, please test it and tell me what you think.

	10-08-2002 18:54									#16
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quote: Originally posted by lockstep A quick comment on Corporate Republic: Even with unit support costs of 3, I'm afraid that the 'doesn't require maintenance' flag is far too powerful. I'll have to test this, though.

Since I'm more of a buidler, and tend not to have a large army (about 2 units for each city at least, plus about 10 or 15 units that have a high attack rateing).

I agree that the not requires maintenance is very powerful, I think by increasing the unit cost to say 4 or 5, it will balance out.


BTW: Don't know anyone mentioned it above, but how about adding imperialism?

	10-08-2002 20:36									#17
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I think Monarchy should have Nuisance corruption - then it would be more useful for large empires.

	14-08-2002 04:16									#18
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havent downloaded and tested, but if the other civs would start taking turns attack corporate republics that could crush them...i guess that's just an MP strategy for ptw in a few months though...