09-08-2002 07:39									#121
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quote: Originally posted by DanS What's this "we" stuff? You should know better than to eat at the table of your betters.

We is the Holy Ortodox Alliance of Greece and Russia vs. American menace. Right Paiktis?
Sorry men, by rules of this scenario offered by David its only US vs. Russia. No alliances allowed. We'll wait for next time.

	09-08-2002 07:42									#122
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I can always join the Russian Army

Anyway it is going to be a short war, we hit yankess, yankees hit the ground and start crying (OBL did it with just 2 buildings)

Short war indeed.

	09-08-2002 07:50									#123
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quote: Originally posted by DanS We won't give you nearly as much to time for a buildup as the Germans did. They were amateurs.

Aside you- who never participated in real war. Germans are born warrirors. They have strong military tradition. During our history we were enemies often, but we respected each other as warrirors. They are exellent warriors and not arrogant like you.

quote: How can you know? Just because we've been wise enough to let the Russians be the poor bastards to die for their country, doesn't mean that we wouldn't do it.

You wouldn't do it. Few month ago there was a poll "Do you ready to die for your country" and only few Americans answered- yes. It's a shame of yours. You will lose.

quote: Ah, so now we're talking 2020? We're putting in $400 billion per annum into our military. Russia... isn't.

You asked why we ever could fight vs. each other. I explained. This scenario is not about 2020 its about 2002.

quote: By that time we'll have created that clone army by those funny looking tall aliens and your ass will be ours on a platter.

Force will be with us. You turned to dark side of the force. The Jedies will smash your storm troopers at the end.

	09-08-2002 07:58									#124
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I can always join the Russian Army Anyway it is going to be a short war, we hit yankess, yankees hit the ground and start crying (OBL did it with just 2 buildings) Short war indeed.

Right, the best scenario for us.
After the first raids of Russian long range aviation and bombardments by submarines cruise missiles of American cities. Washington D.C. and New York are badly damaged. White house, senate, Wall str. are destroyed. American currency fall rapidly-> collapse of American economy, caused also by record oil prices. (don't forget that after the war will declared will put iron currtin again to our borders and will be in full isolation, so no oil export.)

	09-08-2002 08:04									#125
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Europe can shield off the Middle East from the americans for you, if you want So they will be left with nothing but their own limited supplies while you can have the middle eastern oil all for yourself


oooops, ok I forgot, just you

As I said they never fought a real war and they cry like little babies when OBL hits just two buildings of theirs like it was some catastrophe or something.

They are gutless. One city of theirs carpet bombed and see them surrendering and betraying their "country" for what they love the most: bucks

	09-08-2002 08:11									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Serb 2) Means nothing. Is your society ready to lost say 10-15 million people? We are more then ready, when our Rodina in danger. You are not.

Wars have almost never been won by dieing for your country. They've been won by making the other side die for thiers.

	09-08-2002 08:15									#127
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Europe can shield off the Middle East from the americans for you, if you want So they will be left with nothing but their own limited supplies while you can have the middle eastern oil all for yourself

How would you do that everyone know that America has done all your real fighting for you the 100 years.....


Europe couldn't beat a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

	09-08-2002 08:19									#128
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DD, look at your avatar men. Your brain is decoyng. You don't know what are you talking about.
Wars, real, big WARS never been won without real, big casualties. You and Patton ( or you quoted Eisenhower?) demonstrate typical American logic and unreadines to sacrifice his life for your country- your major weaknes.
You just can't understand that not weapons making man a warrior, but his military spirit.

	09-08-2002 08:20									#129
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I didn't know anyone, when I was in the military, that didn't have the military spirit.

	09-08-2002 08:23									#130
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LOL america just did a fireworks show at D-Day. Europe fought off the Nazis and everybody knows it

That said, Europe was actually saved by the Russians. But we did fight bravely too

You simply dont know what war is and when you find out for the first time, you will be over and out

	09-08-2002 08:24									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski How would you do that everyone know that America has done all your real fighting for you the 100 years.....

Nice. Sure during last 100 years Americans invented everything and saved every one asses.

	09-08-2002 08:25									#132
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 LOL america just did a fireworks show at D-Day. Europe fought off the Nazis and everybody knows it That said, Europe was actually saved by the Russians. But we did fight bravely too You simply dont know what war is and when you find out for the first time, you will be over and out

Uh-huh, coming from somebody with no military experience.

I don't believe you know what war is, do you p22?

Ever been in one?

	09-08-2002 08:25									#133
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that's americans for you Serb funny little things arent they? they live in their own fantasy world

	09-08-2002 08:26									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski How would you do that everyone know that America has done all your real fighting for you the 100 years.....

It's only been 50 years.

	09-08-2002 08:26									#135
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The issue is if a nation knows what war is. Greece and Russia do, you have no idea.

	09-08-2002 08:27									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Nice. Sure during last 100 years Americans invented everything and saved every one asses.

And what has Serbia done, or the Rodina?

Other than get lucky that winter came before the Germans got to Moscow?

	09-08-2002 08:28									#137
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The issue is if a nation knows what war is. Greece and Russia do, you have no idea.

No, actually it isn't. How many people are alive from Greece's wars?

Hmmmmm

Last war you fought was with swords.

	09-08-2002 08:30									#138
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It's only been 50 years.

Count WW 1. We weren't really needed, but hell, I need something to do the last 10 minutes of work...

	09-08-2002 08:31									#139
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sure

your knowledge is as much as your endurance in a real war

	09-08-2002 08:32									#140
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Then tell me some paiktis.

What has greece fought in?

I'm willing to learn from the sage who knows everything.

	09-08-2002 08:35									#141
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well, in WW2, Greece defeated a country 6 times LARGER than itself, Italy. Italians suck at war but they were still 6 times larger. Then Greece fought Germany itself since the italians went back crying to mama

The very intense fighting led to the delay of the german invasion of Russia giving time to the Russians to catch the Germans in the harsh winter and save Europe.


That was the last time Greece was at war. Not too far ago is it? and surely not with swords

as i said your knowledge is like your endurance in a real war: non existant

	09-08-2002 08:36									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski What has greece fought in?

They have thier border squables with Turkey and being openly used as a terrorist transit station to point to.

	09-08-2002 08:38									#143
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not as much as you dear

	09-08-2002 08:41									#144
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 \Europe fought off the Nazis and everybody knows it That said, Europe was actually saved by the Russians. But we did fight bravely too

The Nazis beat themselves. If Hitler and co. would have acted a bit more rationally (i.e. postponed their war on the Soviets until Germany had mastered the Middle East, or at least until they made Britain submit) all of Europe would be German right now.

	09-08-2002 08:41									#145
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 not as much as you dear

It goes without saying that we have been more adventurous with our armed forces than you. However, don't let that take anything away from your acomplishments.

	09-08-2002 08:43									#146
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 well, in WW2, Greece defeated a country 6 times LARGER than itself, Italy. Italians suck at war but they were still 6 times larger. Then Greece fought Germany itself since the italians went back crying to mama

... gives paitkis a high five...

Q:"What is the shortest book in the library?"

A:"The book of Italian War heros. It doesn't have any pages. "

	09-08-2002 08:44									#147
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I was actually speaking of the terrorists roaming your country

	09-08-2002 08:44									#148
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 that's americans for you Serb funny little things arent they? they live in their own fantasy world

Right!

	09-08-2002 08:46									#149
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I was actually speaking of the terrorists roaming your country

Do you have any stats from Greece and the US I can compare?

	09-08-2002 08:50									#150
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nationalist,

well about heroes in WW2 all I can is what Churchill said: (you do know Churchil dont you? )

We are used to say that Greeks fight like heroes. From now on we'll have to say that heroes fight like Greeks"
Manchester Guardian, 19 april 1941




We are a small country (with very rich history) but we are proud of our country.

I think we have reasons to be.


and no DD i have no statistics