03-08-2002 11:44									#1
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We've had the Civ2 and Civ3 democracy games...why not an AC one?

	03-08-2002 12:42									#2
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Interesting proposal. I bet you could find some people to get involved; whether there'd be enough to actually get one started, I don't know.

	03-08-2002 13:41									#3
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I love to join games, you just have to explain me what is it about

	03-08-2002 15:41									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak I love to join games, you just have to explain me what is it about

Check out the forum for Civ ii or iii, they have a Democracy game game going. It's kinda hard to put into words but it is a very kewl concept. Count me in.

	03-08-2002 16:15									#5
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Okay, I got it. Should we keep the same constitution or adapt it to SMAC ?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...?threadid=20654

	03-08-2002 16:49									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak Okay, I got it. Should we keep the same constitution or adapt it to SMAC ?

Adapt. It not at least change the titles and terms to be more appropriate toward SMAC/X

Of course, has someone toyed with the idea of a multi-player democracy game with two 'nations' (in our case, factions) where the players would participate in either one or the other, and where there would be two 'presidents' playing the game instead of one?

	03-08-2002 17:10									#7
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Nevermind, I just answered my own question after visiting the Civ II multi-demo game. So, is anybody else joining or is this going to be a four member probe action?

	03-08-2002 21:20									#8
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so, is it only the president (or provost, chairman, prime function, etc.) who does the actual playing? the other people just sit here at the forums and give suggestions on what to do? i dont really want get into something i'll have to be playing SMAC constantly for.

Edit: i was thinking, would we need to make a custom faction, or just use the PKs? SMAC or SMAX?

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	03-08-2002 21:42									#9
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For a start, I think we'd better wait till other people join the game...

	03-08-2002 21:59									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Pandemoniak I think we'd better wait till other people join the game...

Well, we need more people to join to get this thing off the ground, but that doesn't mean we should just sit by and do nothing until more people show up. Why don't we start working on changing some of the terms to be more smac/x oriented?

Instead of President, I suggest we use the appropriate title of the faction we'll be playing (i.e. Brother if UNP, Chairman if Hive, et cetera)

Assistant or Alpha Talent (i.e. Jeneba or Ota Kyi) instead of the Vice President.

And so on and so forth, what do you think Pander?

	03-08-2002 23:05									#11
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Count me in.

	03-08-2002 23:06									#12
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Btw, I suppose it will be transcend no? On the normal map of Planet or a random map?

	03-08-2002 23:42									#13
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i'd guess transcend, maybe huge map of planet, and maybe just change the UNP to Apolyton Forumers:
-1 efficiency-cannot communicate verbally
+1 talent every 4 citizens-Games make people happy
Double votes for planetary governor and supreme leader-->insert legitimate reason here<--
etc.

	04-08-2002 00:07									#14
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I'd join if there is a SMAC demo game.

	04-08-2002 00:50									#15
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quote: Originally posted by TKG and maybe just change the UNP to Apolyton Forumers:

How about something more artistic?

The Citystates of Apolyton?
The Apolyton Alliance?
The Apolyton Republic?

or heck, even "The Centauri Republic" (with appologies to Babylon Five)

quote: Double votes for planetary governor and supreme leader-->insert legitimate reason here<-- etc.

Skilled at Courtly Intrique. After all, part of the fun of a Democracy Game IMHO is the semi-roleplaying aspect taking place on the forum of political maneuvering.

So, I think that puts our numbers at seven. For those with experiences at playing the civ demo games, approx. how many active members are needed to run a successful game?

	04-08-2002 02:19									#16
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This would be a really kewl idea. Of course, I couldnt run for anything but.....Its still a really kewl idea. I would definately join.

	04-08-2002 02:28									#17
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I could be interested.

Huge Map of the Planet. I Suggest we play as Spartans.

I have not played demo games before.

	04-08-2002 02:31									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Andemagne I could be interested. Huge Map of the Planet. I Suggest we play as Spartans. I have not played demo games before.

No, I would say Peacekeepers. The Peacekeeprs can go in any direction. UoP is builder, Spartan is warmonger, but peacekeeper (despite the name) can go in any direction.

	04-08-2002 03:19									#19
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quote: Originally posted by TKG the UNP to Apolyton Forumers: -1 efficiency-cannot communicate verbally +1 talent every 4 citizens-Games make people happy Double votes for planetary governor and supreme leader-->insert legitimate reason here<-- etc.

have to use "Police State" social engineering choise - mods are patrolling the forums.

	04-08-2002 03:44									#20
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So everyone wants huge maps? You do realize then it might take ages before we meet other factions and see some decent military action. If I want to play a pure builder game and don't want to be bothered by other factions, I choose huge maps as well. But I don't think just staying in your own territory and building up your infrastructure will make for an interesting democracy game.

Disclaimer: I have never played a demo game before.

	04-08-2002 03:45									#21
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quote: Originally posted by M@ni@c So everyone wants huge maps? You do realize then it might take ages before we meet other factions and see some decent military action. If I want to play a pure builder game and don't want to be bothered by other factions, I choose huge maps as well. But I don't think just staying in your own territory and building up your infrastructure will make for an interesting democracy game. Disclaimer: I have never played a demo game before.

I agree. I think a standard map would be nice. Because then, we would have decent military, diplomatic, and builder action all in one. Would make for a nice demo game.

	04-08-2002 06:40									#22
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I'm interested in joining.

I've just joined the Civ 3 Democracy game, and have not played a democracy game before that.

Adam

	04-08-2002 06:52									#23
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Ah, the heck with it, I'd join too. I suggest standard-sized map. If we're good enough, then by all means go Thinker or Transcend (if I want to run for President I should lobby for a lower difficulty level ).

	04-08-2002 06:53									#24
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I think a Standard Map would be good.

To get started...we'd probably need about 15, from what I know...

and I'd personally prefer we use SMAC, but only because I don't have SMAX, and then I couldn't hold office

perhaps we should create a signup thread, and start keeping record of who's interested..?

	04-08-2002 07:11									#25
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Yeah, I think we should use original SMAC too. Who knows, we might even get a separate forum for this eventually!

	04-08-2002 07:27									#26
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Edit: I was the City Planner of the Civ2 Demo Game for the two first terms of the game, btw.

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	04-08-2002 07:45									#27
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I'd like to add my voice to those who have said we should use standard SMAC rather than the expansion. While I love the Data Angels, this game should be open to as many people as possible.

I also think that we should vote on issues like map size, what faction to select, and difficulty level.

	04-08-2002 08:11									#28
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I'd probably would not be able to join, but here go some ideas:

Standard SMAC should be used. Keep the game open, as Adam said. Besides, the original seven are well balanced.

Map: standard map of planet. Makes for a classic game and a more interesting one (huge maps would take too long to find your enemy, tiny maps would turn everything into a carnage).

Polls to vote on the most important issues, like what rules would be on/off, what faction to play, what would be the government positions, how would be the constitution etc.

And pray for a separate forum: it makes things easier.

	04-08-2002 08:25									#29
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Markos! Please! This has potential! Create a seperate forums! Please! We beg of you.





Well, at least I do.

	04-08-2002 14:37									#30
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I also agree playing SMAC instead of SMAX
But we'd rather play on a big map of planet