20-11-1999 08:21									#31
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Turn 34 to Frazer

	20-11-1999 21:52									#32
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Turn 35 To Monkey

	21-11-1999 08:57									#33
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Turn 35 to Duck Hunter

	21-11-1999 09:11									#34
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turn 35 to Don

	21-11-1999 09:56									#35
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Turn 35 to Frazer

	22-11-1999 03:05									#36
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Turn 36 To Monkey

	22-11-1999 03:57									#37
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Turn 36 to Duck Hunter

	22-11-1999 06:47									#38
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Turn 36 to Frazer

	24-11-1999 02:05									#39
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Turn 37 To monkey

	24-11-1999 05:57									#40
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Turn 37 to Duck Hunter

	24-11-1999 05:58									#41
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Turn 37 to Duck Hunter

	24-11-1999 08:32									#42
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Turn 37 to Frazer

	25-11-1999 01:30									#43
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Turn 38 To Monkey

	25-11-1999 06:57									#44
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Turn to Robm approx 1 hour ago. Geez, I've got to get to bed earlier so I can get up early to do my turns

	26-11-1999 07:52									#45
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Next turn was sent to Duck Hunter this morning.

	29-11-1999 06:44									#46
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Who has got the game now? Duck Hunter, where are you? RobM just sent me an email saying that he wont be here starting today so if that's the case he wont be around to set Duck Hunter to an AI. If that is the case I will have to replay the last turn and send the game to Don. That means only myself, Don and Frazer will be in the game.

Luk and Becky, if you are reading this please respond as to whether you want your old positions in the game back or not. I havent heard from either of you for a long time and I'm assuming right now you want out of the game. Please send me and email to confirm whether you want out or not so I know whether to get some replacement players or not.

	29-11-1999 21:04									#47
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Well, I have now set RobM and Duck Hunter to AIs, so it is myself, Don and Frazer in the game now. Oh and I don't want to worry anyone but the green AI has taken a lead in the ratings... KILL IT I SAY!!!! or maybe I'll ally myself with it and wipe the rest of you guys with it.

BTW this PBEM thing looks like it might be experiencing a slow and painful death. Can anyone tell me if the dutcheese scenario solves the problem of slow gameplay?

turn 38 to don.

	29-11-1999 21:41									#48
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Sorry for the intrusion... but, Monkey, Dutcheese scenario doesn't resolve the problem of slow PBEM
I hope I will begin a new dutcheese scenario (with CD's mod) soon and it will be faster than the one I play now.

Cheers,

Slamp
[This message has been edited by slamp (edited November 29, 1999).]

	30-11-1999 00:52									#49
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Slamps right!

Accelerated starts don't make any difference to the pace of the turns. The game is only as fast as the slowest player.

But I do think they appeal to most of us, due to the fact that it doesn't take forever to make contact and experience the fun stuff.

Soph's mod is very good and I look forward to playing a game with it. And I'm also looking forward to what Slamp comes up with.

I also believe that less players you have the better off you are. I know the more Civ's you have the more fun the game is.

Slamp's game has 5 players and it moves along at a decent pace. US Pbem was moving along very well, but for some strange reason it is starting to do rather poorly. And things are starting to get interesting in them, at least for me.

I think a lot of players are gung ho at first then the novelty wears off and they start losing interest and drop out. Every time this process happens, it slows the game down and it discourages other players. I also think that players forget that they are in a game and don't check for it on a regular basis. This probably has a lot to do with hardly ever getting a turn, which discourages them, and they stop looking for it.

I hope this game doesn't die out. I don't mind playing it, but I don't think I would join this type of game again. The Accel starts are a way better format for Pbem. When this game was created accel starts for Ctp Pbem wasn't in existence and was the only way to play Ctp Pbem.

Yes, Pbem has a lot of problems associated with it, but if you can get the right people (not necessarily good players) and the right format. Pbem can be a fun and satisfying gaming experience.

Go ahead and join the Jamaicans you primate. I hope they slave you to death with their Rastafarian slavers. Or they get you so stoned that the rest of us can exterminate your puny civ with ease.

Sorry about that, Lung is starting to rub off on me.

Turn 38 to Frazer


[This message has been edited by DON (edited November 29, 1999).]

	30-11-1999 01:54									#50
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Turn 39 To Monkey.

Well at least with just the three of us, we should be able to get some quick turns in.

and I was thinking to be set to AI was a disadvantage.

	30-11-1999 06:02									#51
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first thing. DAMN YOU PEOPLE!

We have talked about this MANY times since the begining of the game. ANYTIME you are going to set someone to AI, you are supposed to e-mail them. I am in 3 civ pbem games.

This game. US-PBEM, and the Dutchesse game. Look at those threads. I send my turn, consistantly within 24 hours, sometimes within just a few hours. These turns are my first priority EVERY time I check e-mail. I can't check these boards every friggin' day and sometimes it is troublesome to post my turns, but I do it. I feel like I am one of the more active players, I even write news journals in the Dutcheese thread from time to time.

#2. I save the past 5 turns of every game I am in. Last turn I have recieved for this one is turn 37.

These games, in my opinion are getting interesting, and I'm very insulted that Monkey sets me to AI without notice via e-mail. , even though I have pretty much always sent my turn in a resonable time, even on the weekend.

PLEASE turn the AI off my CIV and I will play from where it is at now.

THIS IS SO CRAZY. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE COMMUNICATION???!!

Sorry if I offend anyone in this message. I'm just a little irritated over this.

Thanks to the person who tipped me off on this situation, otherwise I may not have known for another couple days.


Ed
edgar3@earthlink.net

	30-11-1999 07:41									#52
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Sincere apologies Ed, I have sent you an email regarding this mixup already and I hope you will forgive me. I have already sent turn 39 on to Don before he informed me about what is going on in this thread so I will set you back in the game at the start of turn 40. Let me know if this is OK with you.

I know this it is sometimes hard for players to check this board at times so from now on I think I will email regular updates about where the game is at... maybe 2-3 updates per week. Consider it sort of a little newsletter if you must. I realize myself as host I have also not been setting a good example (note how infrequently I post about my updates at these boards) and I hope my current actions will make me more responsible with my own PBEM games.

I've also made my email visible now so players can contact me more easily.

I hope this will solve any more problems with communication between players.

Martin

	02-12-1999 03:48									#53
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Turn 40 To Monkey

	02-12-1999 05:09									#54
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Frazer, please resend the turn, I did not get it.

	03-12-1999 02:46									#55
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Turn Resent

Not sure what happened but I definitely sent it the first time as it was still in my sent items.

Hope you get it no problem this time.
[This message has been edited by Frazer (edited December 02, 1999).]

	03-12-1999 06:22									#56
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Got the game this time.

Turn to Duck Hunter approx 2 hours ago.

	03-12-1999 10:06									#57
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turn sent to Don.

	03-12-1999 10:30									#58
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Turn 40 to Frazer

	04-12-1999 01:22									#59
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Turn 41 To Monkey

	04-12-1999 04:51									#60
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Hi everyone,

I'm pleased to announce a new player in Monkey 1. Everyone please give a warm reception to Swissy! Swissy will be playing the Jamaicans between RobM and Duck Hunter. Stay tuned for the next newsletter guys.

Turn 41 to Swissy.