03-08-2002 12:48									#1
	14 new civs to play with until PtW.... Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I've been working on a pack of new civs while I wait for PtW. I've tried to avoid using ones in PtW or the Apolyton ExtraCivs pack, though there is still some overlap with the latter. The civs are: Nunavut, Mali, Ethiopia, Hittites, Harappa, Java, Polynesia, Sweden, Maya, Hungary, Lithuania, Portugal, Incas, and Morocco.

I've put up the current beta of the mod and a description of each civ (including how far along key components are) at
http://www.wright.edu/~jeffrey.dixon/civ3pack

Does anyone know:

1. Why my mod crashes every once in a while and blames JGL.DLL? I can simply restart from my autosave, do the exact same thing I did before it crashed, and it usually won't crash again the second time. Strange.

2. Where I might find something that looks like:
a. a Kayak (I'm using the Coracle as a placeholder)?
b. a Slinger (using the Skirmisher right now)?
c. a guerilla (using a guererillo right now)?
d. a Polynesian voyaging canoe?
e. 17th century infantry (Swedish special unit, Infanteri)?

3. Anything else that might help me develop this mod?

I figured this is more of a Creation message than a Files message, given that most of my graphics are placeholders. Still, I'm having fun playtesting the mod so if you're dying to try life as an Inuit or Hittite give it a whirl and let me know what you think!

Last edited by abbamouse on 09-08-2002 at 05:51

	03-08-2002 13:24									#2
	Got spare money?

You are best playing CTP1 or 2 because Firaxis will never come up with any of those civs.

	04-08-2002 03:00									#3
	Inflate your Upload Space

I believe there is a Carolean unit (Swedish infantry) at CivFanatics.

By the way, I don't think that Sweden should have the Religious trait. The Industrious or the Scientific should fit better.

	05-08-2002 03:28									#4
	About those Swedes... Full PM-box? Change here!

Actually I meant for the Swedes to be militaristic and industrious. I've corrected the error now. As for the Carolean, wasn't that more of an 18th century footsoldier? I really want the unique unit to be a combined artillery-infantry unit to represent the greatest of Gustavus's military innovations: effective use of combined arms tactics. I just wish I had a graphic (a musketman next to a cannon or something) for it and a decent name. Was there a particular name for his wedge-shaped battle formations? Heck, is there some Swedish word or phrase that means "combined arms force"?

Incidentally, I thought about making the Swedish capital Uppsala, since it was the medieval capital, but I figured Stockholm would be more recognizable. Instead, Uppsala is the second city in the list. For most of the civilizations, I tried to list the historically renowned cities first and then the rest in order of population (largest first).

	05-08-2002 15:27									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I dont think there is a good Swedish word for "combined arms force". Maybe you could call it "knekt" - the old Swedish term for "soldier".

Uppsala wasn't that important as a capital, it was mostly important as the seat of the archbishop, and therefore the place where the kings were coronated. Before the Vasa dynasty, the king and his staff used to move around between the many castles.

	09-08-2002 05:53									#6
	Support Apolyton

Thanks for the pointers, Optimizer. I may change the name in the next iteration of the mod. Right now I'm playing around with leaderhead graphics for the next update.