03-08-2002 19:21									#1
	War Academy : Home Defence Increase Your PM Length

Not the most difficult thing, but must be as efficient and cheap as possible. To be considered are :

- Garrisons : to be kept at a minimum
- Reserves : to be established along the roads in view of reinforcing any city in the range of potential enemies in one turn by so many units and in two turns by so more units.
- Lookouts: Take advantage of mountains or hills to plant lookouts outside our borders.
- Roads: Before the discovery of Engineering, take care that rivers don?t slow down the movements of troops. Also, some new roads could shorten the travel of the reinforcements, and consequently reduce the amount of the reserves
- Barracks: Ideally any city on the front line should be able to provide healing to wounded units, or at least the next city accessible in one turn.
- Assignments: The units in the Home Defence Reserve must in no case be enrolled in the main Army before equivalent replacements have been provided or at least put in production.

The ROPs raise a specific difficulty; allowing military units to travel within our borders is quite disturbing. From a HD point of view, the question is: should we sign any of them at all?

This is just to start the discussion, and your comments are appreciated.

	03-08-2002 20:10									#2
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hi ,

, sounds good , now we only need to upgrade ones in a while , .....

and build a strong empire , so that in case of a war we can get troops real FAST , ...

and disband those old units while building some improvements

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	03-08-2002 21:57									#3
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We should def. put more forces out across the board -- right now, a strong attack from an enemy civ could rip through our city defenses like we did to the Americans. I think we could use a lot of the forces generated by Plan Gold to achieve better homeland defense, though more spearmen across the board would help also.

-- adaMada

	03-08-2002 22:09									#4
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quote: Originally posted by adaMada We should def. put more forces out across the board -- right now, a strong attack from an enemy civ could rip through our city defenses like we did to the Americans. I think we could use a lot of the forces generated by Plan Gold to achieve better homeland defense, though more spearmen across the board would help also. -- adaMada

hi ,

not only that , we should have more roads , more buildings , more workers , in short ; more of just about everything , .....


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	03-08-2002 23:17									#5
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-Garrisons: If we're not fighting (or don't think we're about to fight) a defensive war, limit it to two per city. If we are, or are about to, fight on our own territory, build garrisons (and walls) with all due speed. I'd prefer spearmen (since they're upgradeable), but swordsmen, or, in a pinch, warriors would work fine.

-Roads: Get Engineering ASAP. More workers would also help. (Wasn't someone suggesting we send some with the France invasion force a while back, before we met America?)

-Barracks: Build at cities on the front-line, and in our major production cities.

	03-08-2002 23:20									#6
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adaMada,

It is exactly the reason why the War Academy could help in designing an efficent defence as cheap as possible. Thinking about it now could make that our priorities are established by us, not by events.

	03-08-2002 23:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov -Garrisons: If we are, or are about to, fight on our own territory, build garrisons (and walls) with all due speed.

Until we know which city will be assaulted (when we see the attacking stack), the reserves should not move, except the farthest to draw nearer the two turns distance. Until the last moment, the reserves should be kept on hand. Just in case ...

	03-08-2002 23:55									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT adaMada, It is exactly the reason why the War Academy could help in designing an efficent defence as cheap as possible. Thinking about it now could make that our priorities are established by us, not by events.

I agree . I've been pushing for more defending units in general, and I think that we'd be much stronger overall if we put a second spearman in each city, but I suppose we could work out a garrisoning system where stacks of units are left in between cities so they could protect either city should the need arise... don't have time right now, but I'll look at the savegame/some maps later and see if there's anything that jumps out.

-- adaMada

	04-08-2002 00:35									#9
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Barracks: just build Sun Tzus, or take it from someone who did build it

Garrisons: Despotism 2 all around, Republic 2 on border 1 on inner, Monarchy 3 all around.

Lookouts: Yep. station some warriors on mountains near our borders.

Reserves: get some horses later and upgrade to knights. Very effective. We'd need engineering soon for the rivers...

ROPs: sign them when we NEED them. as of right now, they are of no use.

	04-08-2002 20:41									#10
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX Barracks: just build Sun Tzus, or take it from someone who did build it Garrisons: Despotism 2 all around, Republic 2 on border 1 on inner, Monarchy 3 all around. Lookouts: Yep. station some warriors on mountains near our borders. Reserves: get some horses later and upgrade to knights. Very effective. We'd need engineering soon for the rivers... ROPs: sign them when we NEED them. as of right now, they are of no use.

hi ,

ROP , sign them , and then , yipikayeeeee , use them against those species , .......héhéh , ....

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	05-08-2002 00:58									#11
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I think we should leave only as many garrison troops in our inner cities (Apolyton, Termina, Tassagrad, MAYBE Banana HQ and Gaia) as necessary to prevent disorder, and have our strong defenses in the border cities or waiting in advantageous terrain. This is of course after the war with France.

	05-08-2002 01:48									#12
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker I think we should leave only as many garrison troops in our inner cities (Apolyton, Termina, Tassagrad, MAYBE Banana HQ and Gaia) as necessary to prevent disorder, and have our strong defenses in the border cities or waiting in advantageous terrain. This is of course after the war with France.

hi ,

, you dont wont to tie to many down at one point , .....

it would be best to use only what is really needed in the cities , the rest chould go to key-points and to be used as banana in the frontline

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	05-08-2002 01:51									#13
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Also, any unoccupied units should be set to "picking bananas for skywalker's plantations". *cough*some go to uber*cough*

	05-08-2002 08:09									#14
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there was already a War Academy thread on home defense but I welcome this one too. I really do think we need to start planning for when the ai's stop REXing and start getting really aggressive. Starting our defense plans at that point would be too late.

	05-08-2002 11:15									#15
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quote: Originally posted by panag the rest chould go to key-points and to be used as banana in the frontline

The banana cluster : Apolytonian military formation ?

	05-08-2002 11:23									#16
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Captain,

As you see, this thread is limited to the technicalities of home defence ; most of the questions you raised have yet to be answered. I suggest, in order to make things advance, that a case be analysed, in your thread, on the most probable agression.

	05-08-2002 17:08									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT The banana cluster : Apolytonian military formation ?

hi ,

nope , more as shock troops , ......
fodder , troops that unless they become "elite" are worth nothing , .......

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	05-08-2002 18:47									#18
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX Lookouts: Yep. station some warriors on mountains near our borders.

Yes. In particular, move the warrior stationed in Ubergorsk up into one of the mountain tiles to the east, to monitor Persia's development of Sidon.

	06-08-2002 19:06									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Robber Baron Yes. In particular, move the warrior stationed in Ubergorsk up into one of the mountain tiles to the east, to monitor Persia's development of Sidon.

hi ,

intresting , but he should move a bit back and forth , so he can cover more then one piece of ground , ....

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