19-03-2003 10:23									#271
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2185 is turned.

	21-03-2003 11:58									#272
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Turn on to SMH.

Faced with defeat on all fronts from the University Agressors, the Hive Leadership, in the interests of the safety of its people (Hundreds of thousands of whom have already been brutally slaughtered by University troops in their seizure of Hive Bases, including Fucundity Tower, where the Longevity Vaccine, the Hive's greatest contribution to Humanity on Planet, is stored), has surrendered to the forces of Provost SMH.

	21-03-2003 13:03									#273
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85 to darius.

the UofP has declined the Hive surrender. The Hive demanded return of their bases. This, the UofP could not agree to. The righteous UofP plan to liberate all of the Hive's bases, for the good of Planet, and its people.

Surely, the world has seen the Hive people waving UofP flags upon their liberation from Hive tyranny.

-SMH

	21-03-2003 15:14									#274
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We hardly demanded our bases back, merely asked humbly for them to be returned. Why do you continue this pointless agression against a foe who has already surrendered carté blanché?

	21-03-2003 23:14									#275
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As the UofP has maintained, Planet must be liberated from all forms of tyranny, especially the police state of the Hive. The Hive people have thanked me, and will continue to thank me when I liberate them all.

	22-03-2003 04:20									#276
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Thank you? They follow you out of fear that you'll deny them their longevity vaccine treatments.

	22-03-2003 04:33									#277
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why would your people fear a noble and just leader such as i? i have given them power of information, and the facilities to boost their morale and make them happy, whereas, your police state kept them in check out of fear of torture.

	22-03-2003 09:06									#278
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Why indeed would any person not fear one who has already slaughtered hundreds of thousands if not millions of our citizens in unprovoked attack against Hive bases. Hive bases where there is not one punishment sphere. Hive bases where the treatments for longevity are freely available. Hive bases where we have consistantly had food stockpiles above and beyond our citizens wildest dreams. Hive bases where Network Nodes, Rec. Commons, and Childrens Creches are the norm thanks to the abundant minerals provided to us by Mt. Planet. And where they don't exist, it is only for lack of minerals, not for lack of desire to provide them to our citizens. Perhaps you've conveniently overlooked the fact that NO Hive base has ever rioted, even in the absence of morale boosting facilities, and indeed, in the absence of even police.

Do you have any besides strawman propaganda broadcasts to attempt to justify your position Provost? Again you unfairly attack my Police State when my longstanding Pact with the UN Peacekeepers serves to show your claims in that regard are utterly false. Perhaps we should be looking closer at your so called Democracy. The fact that you've stayed in power this long while your citizens riot and when you declare unjust wars on countries with no military power might say something for the practises you've employed at the ballot box. At least I'm honest about my position of leadership. But you......when your ballot allows for selection of only you and no other....

	22-03-2003 10:21									#279
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the Hive questions the Provost's 100% election victory to leader of the UofP? the citizens of UofP voted for me, not because I was the only one on the ballot, but because they all love me. I, after all, cleansed Planet of the zealots known as the Believers.

What has the Hive done to make Planet a better place to live? Stand back and allow Miriam and her followers to propagate unopposed? I for one, took a stand, just as I'm doing now with the Hive.

	22-03-2003 19:49									#280
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I'm hearing a lot more propaganda here and no real evidence. If your people loved you as you say, why is it that the UoP has had to "pacify" more "drones" than any other faction through use of military police and/or facilities? If you were truly an example of what a democracy is supposed to be, I doubt the common man or woman would wish to live under it.

What have we done to make Planet a better place to live? Why, the Longevity Vaccine of course. The same Vaccine which you stole from us. As for allowing Miriam to propagate, how do you expect me to do anything when I only recently made advancements towards Doctrine Flexability. I don't even have Needlejets or Choppers, unlike yourself, as you've shown only too often in your slaughtering of Hive civilians. And what have you done? You've built more weapons of war than any other faction, and shown more than just the willingness to use them, when you would not even accept the surrender of a beaten foe. What a hypocrite you are Provost. What a hypocrite indeed.

	23-03-2003 01:59									#281
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I built the HGP, the VW, and took leadership of the LV. I'd hardly call that pacifying my citizens. I even have many talents to my credit.

My strikes on Hive bases were precision-oriented, only striking military targets, so that I could liberate the Hive people.

I am sorry you can not see the error of your waves, Chairman.

As for my few police officers, what kind of society lives without the rule of law? An anarchy, that's what. I have the just rule of law in my land to protect the innocent from criminals who wish to destroy law and order.

-SMH

	23-03-2003 06:20									#282
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The HGP, allowing you to alter the very genetic structure of your citizens, something which not even I have done. The Virtual World, allowing you to hypnotise people into mindless obedience. The Longevity Vaccine, unjustly taken from me. And let's not forget the two contributions you failed to mention. The Command Nexus, giving you the largest military base on Planet. The Cyborg Factory, with which you build and rebuild your people into meldings of man and machine as superior warriors. These are not the contributions of a benevolant person. They are those of a warmonger.

Precision-oriented, only striking military targets? Bullshit. Unless you'd like to claim that the millions of people you've slaughtered in taking my bases were all military. A total lie, as you well know. Our minimal defense forces were there for defense against Mind Worms. We were never equipped for defence against a human agressor. In our blessed isolation here on this northern island, we never felt it was necessary.

The error of my ways? The only errors I've made were ever thinking that you were a worthy ally, and one who could be trusted to not be an agressor against a peaceful nation like mine.

When every one of your police seems to be a riot policeman who if not there would leave the base in such riots that they'd turn from your faction says a lot for the true reason for them to be there. You rule by fear Provost. Fear and terror. What moral superority you claim to have over myself is a joke, and you only make it more so.

	23-03-2003 07:57									#283
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I just logged onto this forum for the first time in several weeks and was amazed. What with the communications blackout and my not checking here, I had no idea there was a war going on.

SMH, please knock it off with this "role-playing" or whatever it is you're doing. It pisses people off. I have played with other people who do it, and it always pisses me off. Just say "I attacked you because I'm stronger and I can win the game that way".

And I'm truly appalled at your making light of deadly serious current events.

Turn to Hobbes.

	23-03-2003 09:29									#284
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quote: Originally posted by Darius SMH, please knock it off with this "role-playing" or whatever it is you're doing. It pisses people off. I have played with other people who do it, and it always pisses me off. Just say "I attacked you because I'm stronger and I can win the game that way". And I'm truly appalled at your making light of deadly serious current events.

Personally Darius, I don't think you have that right. Whether SMH role-plays or not is quite frankly, none of your business. You don't like it? Don't read it. You are the only one complaining. Archaic is participating & the only thing I'm complaining about is SMH kicking my ass!!! Nowhere do I see SMH or Archaic "making light of current events" the only quote that could possibly be construed as such was made by me a few posts back-- and for that I make no apologies. If nothing else, such posts break the monotony of boring turn-sent messages.

Turned to Archaic.

	23-03-2003 11:33									#285
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I suppose I should take this time to say that despite the things that I've said in my defence here in this game, I *am* in favour of the war in Iraq, and I wouldn't intentionally make light of it.

Unlike with Saddam however......this war against the Hive by the UoP is unjust. Down with University Imperialism.

	23-03-2003 20:11									#286
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OK, clearly I am in the minority here. I apologize if I misinterpreted anyone's posts.

	24-03-2003 03:49									#287
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Role-playing is fun like Hobbes said, and it sure looks like Archaic is having a fun time blasting my self-righteous attitude.

I know I'm having a fun time being a self-righteous warmonger, I mean, trascendent peace-loving leader.

-SMH

	24-03-2003 05:16									#288
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86 to darius

Ally, Chairman? Why would I ever ally with a tyrant who uses bribes to keep his people in check?

We were never allies. You were always a threat to the well-being of Planet, and I intend to remove that threat.

-SMH

	25-03-2003 03:42									#289
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2186 to Hobbes.

	25-03-2003 03:59									#290
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2187 to my fellow freedom fighter Archaic.

Down with the repressive University!

Hobbes

	25-03-2003 15:22									#291
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Quite hard to be a threat when you never had weapons to begin with, isn't it?

And as I recall....you had a treaty with me. You broke that. You are most certainly a traitor Provost. And so is the person who's bankrolling you.

Turn to SMH.

	26-03-2003 04:05									#292
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87 to darius

treaty Chairman? i'd hardly call international aid to your backwards tribe, a treaty. i only signed it in the hopes that u would learn the error of your ways, and treat ur people right. i was wrong.

	28-03-2003 01:45									#293
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2188 to Archaic in exile.

	30-03-2003 16:37									#294
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H0bbes, could you resend that please? I don't seem to have the turn here.

	31-03-2003 03:15									#295
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Done.

	02-04-2003 03:30									#296
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88 to darius.

I've left the final bases for both Archy and Hobbes, so they can self-destruct them, themselves, due to the bug in eliminating human players from pbem.

Good game guys, and hope to play again in the future.

-SMH

	05-04-2003 09:30									#297
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Done. I would have obliterated it last turn with my other bases but I stuffed up.

See you in the next game.

	09-04-2003 06:42									#298
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A few days late in posting, but done and done. See you in the a1 SMH. I should have that turn to you later today if I haven't already sent it (I really should get in the habit of sending these as soon as I play them).

	09-04-2003 06:50									#299
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Thanks for the game, everyone.