03-01-2000 17:33									#1
	Apolyton quickstart Pbem Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Hi,

I like Apolyton pack and I want to use it in a pbem game. I think an accelerate start is a good solution to pbem. That's why I write a scenario for Apolyton pack using ideas from Dutcheese mod.
I look for 3 or 4 players to begin a game soon. If you are interesting please leave here your time zone, your e-mail, your nickname, the civilization you want to play.
But, I think you must try the scenario first, because a quickstart is very different than normal start, especially with Apolyton pack.
You could find details about this quickstart at http://slaamp.virtualave.net/ctp/

[This message has been edited by slamp (edited January 03, 2000).]

	03-01-2000 19:35									#2
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I am willing to give it a try. I also like the Apolyton Pak, especially with Awesome AIP's. I have encountered on problem with the QuickStart scenario, once my daughter started a game and got double of everything(two horse archers, two transports, and TWENTY settlers).

Civ: Aztec
Leader: Swisazuma
email: markbalt@aol.com
Time: GMT-6 (CST-US)
[This message has been edited by Swissy (edited January 03, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by Swissy (edited January 03, 2000).]

	03-01-2000 19:45									#3
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I know this bug. It exists on first version. The problem appears when you have two settlers at the begining (typically chieftain difficulty). I look for a solution to avoid it.

	03-01-2000 20:56									#4
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I'd like to have crack as the Germans.
I'll go as Jak and I'm GMT.

What do I need to download/install?

	04-01-2000 15:05									#5
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Well we are 4:
- Slamp: Celtic, Slamp II, olivier@daury.net, GMT+1
- Swissy: Aztec, Swisazuma, markbalt@aol.com, GMT-6
- Jon: Germans, Jak, jonfurderer@freeuk.com, GMT
- Don: Assyrians, Don, deveritt@orc.ca, GMT-5
Anyone else ?

At which time could you play ? At which time do you prefer to play ?
- Slamp: 9H - 19H GMT+1 (prefer: 9H-10H and 18H-19H)

Which map size do you want ?
Others rules (difficulties, parameters, etc...) ?

To test the scenario, download it and follows instructions (readme file)

	04-01-2000 21:55									#6
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At GMT -6, the Great Swisazuma will be able to process his turn at the following times:
These are all GMT(with US/CAN time listed second
)
M-F 11H - 12:30H, 1H-5H or 5am -6:30am, 7pm -11pm CST
S&S 14H - 5H OR 8am -11pm CST

As for map, Giagantic is a must as I played a couple of hotseat starts and even on the hugh map Blue will infringe on Orange at the start. There is no-way around it except using the gigantic map. I think we should have one turn before contact, to at least get a shot at the prime real estate near the start position. As for setting, the level does not matter so set it at Diety, I like barbarians running around(especially with Awesome AIP), for world setting I like it cool, wet, some islands and middle or less goods.
[This message has been edited by Swissy (edited January 04, 2000).]

	04-01-2000 23:37									#7
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I reckon it's got to be Gigantic.

Apart from that I'll take what I'm given though as a builder rather than a conquerer I would prefer plenty of natural resources.

I'm available 0700 - 0800/1800-1900/0000-0100
All GMT.

	05-01-2000 00:02									#8
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I found the bug and delete it. A new version is 0.6
I never played in chieftain mode ;-)

	05-01-2000 03:22									#9
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I am a builder also, I just do not want those monopolies to come to easily. Let's get some import/export going. I am tired of playing net games where I plop down a settler and have 4 goods in the tile, and I am sitting on top of a fifth. No trade offers are made because there are more than enough goods inside the borders. I want player interaction.

	05-01-2000 16:33									#10
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Hi could I play in your game????
I live in Greece that is GMT+2 and check my mail eveyday at 8.00-9.00 and 20.00.21.00 local time.
I play deity level for first time and would like the Greeks.

If I can play please tell me what I have to install
Thanks....

	05-01-2000 18:43									#11
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Sorry to bother again, but I have a problem with your senario.
I cant load it.
I did everything you said in the readme file but when I go to the Apolyton senario I cant find your senario to start playing???
(I changed the file to scen0004 and the number to 5)
[This message has been edited by Tilemacho (edited January 05, 2000).]

	05-01-2000 19:24									#12
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Is there a slic error ?
Did you install Apolyton Pack before ?

Olviier

	05-01-2000 20:44									#13
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Yes of course Apolyton Pack works fine.
The problem is that I cant see the scenario to run it.
Should it be in the same place where the 2 world maps and the meditaranian map are located?
[This message has been edited by Tilemacho (edited January 05, 2000).]

	05-01-2000 21:53									#14
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[Extract from readme\readme.quickstart.txt]
Installation instruction:
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Unzip the files under \Call To Power\scenarios\Apolyton\
Rename the directory scen00xx using the next number available, for example scen0004
Update the file \Call To Power\scenarios\Apolyton\packlist.txt by increase by one the number on the third line
[end of extract]

You should see something like that:
- scenarios\Apolyton\packlist.txt
- scenarios\Apolyton\default
- scenarios\Apolyton\english
- scenarios\Apolyton\readme
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0000
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0001
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0002
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0003
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004\Scenario.txt
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004\default
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004\english
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004\french
- scenarios\Apolyton\scen0004\readme

Hope this help

	06-01-2000 10:03									#15
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I cant see the
apolyton\scen004\scenario.txt

the others are ok

I'll do once more to see if something went wrong with installation

Thanks, anyway

	06-01-2000 10:13									#16
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ok I did it again and it works now!!!
I going to play now and tell you later what I think about it (althought my experience is little anyway)

	05-01-2000 23:04									#17
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I find an other bug :-( I will post a new version soon.

	05-01-2000 23:36									#18
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Still not able to play
Now after I launch the game I get a :
Slic error: ...\scen0004\default\gamedata\scenario.slc:78: syntax error
...\scen0004\default\gamedata\scenario.slc:79: syntax error
...\scen0004\default\gamedata\scenario.slc:80: syntax error
...\scen0004\default\gamedata\scenario.slc:81: syntax error

	05-01-2000 23:41									#19
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The Great Swisazuma wishes to know when his conquest of the world will start.

	06-01-2000 00:10									#20
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Tilemacho: Yeah, it's the last bug I found.
I just posted a new version: http://slaamp.virtualave.net/ctp/AQuickStart.zip

Swissy: I hope I will begin the game this weekend.

	07-01-2000 18:57									#21
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OK, we are 5 players:

- Slamp: Celtic (?), Slamp II, olivier@daury.net, GMT+1
- Swissy: Aztec, Swisazuma, markbalt@aol.com, GMT-6
- Jon: Germans, Jak, jonfurderer@freeuk.com, GMT
- Don: Assyrians, Don, deveritt@orc.ca, GMT-5
- Tilemacho: Greeks, Tilemacho, psycho@med.uoc.gr, GMT+2

I look at your times, and I think we have 3 possibles players' orders:
What do you think ? Which one will be the right one ?
I know it's utopian, but...

Solution 1	Zone	GMT	EST
Slamp	GMT+1	08h-18h	03h-13h
Jon	GMT	07h-08h 18h-19h 00h-01h	02h-03h 13h-14h 19h-20h
Don	GMT-5	18h-	13h-
Swissy	GMT-6	11h-12h30 18h-19h	06h-07h30 20h-00h
Tilemacho	GMT+2	06h-07h 18h-19h	01h-02h 13h-14h

	07-01-2000 19:34									#22
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None of them seem to flow better than the rest. So, go with any of them, #3 is ok, I don't mind being last. Let's get going to take advantage of the weekend.

	07-01-2000 23:40									#23
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It seems that 3 has the most natural East==>West flow.

The World settings you put in your EMail are fine with me except that it has got to be a Gigantic World with five of us or we are just going to be falling all over each other right from the start. I didn't think that difficulty level made any difference in MPG whatsoever but even if it does it's the same for all.
[This message has been edited by Jon (edited January 07, 2000).]

	08-01-2000 02:59									#24
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Ok, if we play the 3 one I can play a little later my turn so as to play after you Slamp (can sleep a little more)
But 1 and 3 look better than the 2nd one.

	08-01-2000 06:45									#25
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Ok for solution 3.

Well I played 30 turns using the quickstart in deity, gigantic map and against 4 AI. Well, it would be very difficult to win.
On turn 20; I had -22G each turn and only 79 in science
I made 2 new triggers in scenario.slc
The first one replace super settlers at turn 5 by normal one, the second one add 3 caravans. I think in the release, it would be 5. I will test again the quickstart tomorrow morning but now I'm going to bed
[This message has been edited by slamp (edited January 07, 2000).]

	09-01-2000 16:42									#26
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The game will start very soon. I will send you by email the last release of the scenario. Be carefull, Apolyton pack is very difficult to play

	11-01-2000 19:10									#27
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Any news from you Slamp?

	13-01-2000 16:18									#28
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I'm alive !!! But I have a lot of work now. And CTP crashed on my personal computer last weekend :-(
I will begin the game, when I could

	13-01-2000 23:33									#29
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I have some problems with Apolyton Pack.
After my crash I installed again CTP, CTP patch 1.2, CTP hack 1.21, Apolyton Pack.
Now when I try to play a pbem using a scenario from Apolyton Pack I could play the first turn, but I can't load the second one by clicking on it. Any idea ?

	14-01-2000 10:35									#30
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Yes, I have an idea. The README file said there is a problem with PBEM Apolyton Pak scenarios. Part of the autostart code is corrupted by the scenario. To get around this you must place the PBEM.csg file in the regular save games folder:

C:\Program Files\Activision\Civilization-Call To Power\ctp_program\ctp\save\games

Create a new folder, I call mine "PBEM" and when you download the turn file, send it to that folder. Then boot up CTP in the single player mode, load game, find the game file. I've played a few turns using three players and it works fine.

Slamp, when you create the game, you must have the Apoloyton Pak "activated". You do this by either loading an old Apolyton Pak saved game or creating a new Apolyton Pak single player game. You then hit the "New Game" button under options and back your way to the multiplayer/PBEM start screen. If you don't, you won't be able to use all those new civs like Celts and Aztecs.



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