05-08-2002 18:22									#1
	Best starting place ever? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Playing a random large map, with (also random) persia I got a start which was silly good. My first two cities had *6* cows total.

As if that wasn't enough, my capital also had wines and iron inside it's radius

(the wine and the two wines directly outside my capitals area were used to feed my third city).

That start would have given me my first win on emperor if it hadn't crashed (no backup) in the 1600's AD I totally dominated the game, with like 6-7 tech lead, about 50% of the total power in the charts..

	05-08-2002 18:54									#2
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Oh, and if you are interested, it was possible to save after the crash, but sadly that doesn't remove the problem..
which is *extreme* lag (the eot blinking takes like 10 minutes to do, for an example). If anyone wishes, I could make the game available for download?

	05-08-2002 19:58									#3
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Imagine something like this happening in multiplayer.

	05-08-2002 20:03									#4
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I've had similar starts in the past, but that does sound great. Where those first 2 cities on rivers?

Sometimes I get an amazing starting spot, and think "I should rock this game" only to find out a little while later that the surround land is terrible.

-Arrian

	05-08-2002 20:15									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

My capital was on a river, yes..

and the surrounding land was terrible.. I have never seen a continent with more jungle on than the one I started on..

Those three cities were the only nonjungle cities I built before I crushed the iroqeus (sp?) who had only got space for building 2 cities on nonjungle land, using an immortal rushwhich afterwards got turned to the french, who would have been a powerhouse, since they were about the only civ on the whole continent with space for more than a few cities outside jungle.. Not that it helped a lot against immortals, since they didn't build many horsemen despite having the tech for like forever..

Before I ended the initiary war I also crushed the aztecs, who had gotten 3 quite bad city sites, and no space for expansion due to the french..