05-08-2002 20:09									#1
	Are PBEM and MP the same? Increase Your PM Length

MarkG seems to think so.

Even as i write this, he has said that withen 48 hours ALL PBEM threads from the Scenario League and the Spanish forum be moved here, in a subforum.

His word was :

People who play IP=PBEM players.

I think it would be interesting to see what the MP crowd thinks about this.

	05-08-2002 21:25									#2
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well not really...but in a way i guess.... it is a form of mp, but not what i think of when i play the game.....

	05-08-2002 21:30									#3
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Not at all...

MP= Playing RealTime

PBEM= Playing AnyTime you want.

There's also not the save and reload feature available to MPers either.

	05-08-2002 21:34									#4
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Well PBEM is multiplayer, because more than one player participates. Having said that most people play PBEM or real time games almost exclusively.

	07-08-2002 11:40									#5
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pbem is more akin to succession games IMHO.

"ok, i'm done, email to you"

	07-08-2002 12:18									#6
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Are Chris 62 and MOBIUS the same?

	07-08-2002 18:55									#7
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PBEM is MP, but nothing the same. So I vote it as a 3rd option.

	08-08-2002 16:28									#8
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a number of MP game sin civ have become so slow in final stages that they become PBEM to keep the game going...

Totally changes the Style of play though as there is no longer any diplomacy involved...

Not my personal preference for a MP game, but still it is MP.

	08-08-2002 20:15									#9
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chris, as i said in the other thread that you misread
= is not !=
or
"=" != "!="

	08-08-2002 20:31									#10
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG chris, as i said in the other thread that you misread = is not != or "=" != "!="

got to watch those tricky analytical symbols...

	08-08-2002 21:35									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG chris, as i said in the other thread that you misread = is not != or "=" != "!="

I'm sure your trying to tell me something, but I think my poll also told you about that a bit.

The two gaming types are seperate and distinct, set up a PBEM forum, fine, but don't shove it into MP, they aern't the same.

	12-08-2002 12:49									#12
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quote: I'm sure your trying to tell me something

ok, i'll try it again more slooooooowly

stop talking to the guy next to you and take notice!

= is the symbol used to show equality between two parts

for example if we say

code:
kitten = cool nice beings

we mean that kitten are what they are


now, here comes the tricky part

!= is the opposite symbol!!
example

code:
People who play IP != PBEM players

which means that the people who play IP are NOT the same with the people that play PBEM

got it?
any questions?
want me to repeat anything?

here are more examples

code:
This forum = Civ2-Multiplaying
This forum != Civ2-IP Multiplaying
IP Multiplaying = Multiplaying
PBEM != IP Multiplaying
PBEM = Multiplaying

	12-08-2002 13:11									#13
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markG that was very funny.

	12-08-2002 18:01									#14
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But if

quote: This forum = Civ2-Multiplaying

and

quote: This forum != Civ2-IP Multiplaying

then where's the forum for Civ2-IP Multilplaying?

Sounds like that means that all the IP-MP threads here are actually off topic... (easily)

	12-08-2002 18:29									#15
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He means that it's for multiplaying generally, which encompasses both PBEM and IP games. 2 forums might not be a bad idea though.

	12-08-2002 19:36									#16
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG ok, i'll try it again more slooooooowly stop talking to the guy next to you and take notice!

You could try to be clear, instead of scarcastic.

quote: = is the symbol used to show equality between two parts for example if we say code: kitten = cool nice beings we mean that kitten are what they are now, here comes the tricky part != is the opposite symbol!! example code: People who play IP != PBEM players which means that the people who play IP are NOT the same with the people that play PBEM

I have NEVER seen != meaning an inverse proposition, you will forgive me if my geekdom has yet to reach your level.
At least you see the last part, what I tried to tell you all along.

quote: got it?

Yes

quote: any questions?

Why did you bring this up in the first place?

quote: want me to repeat anything?

You could recite Plato's republic, might be interesting.

quote: here are more examples code: This forum = Civ2-Multiplaying This forum != Civ2-IP Multiplaying IP Multiplaying = Multiplaying PBEM != IP Multiplaying PBEM = Multiplaying

Very good, you win a cookie.

	12-08-2002 19:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike He means that it's for multiplaying generally, which encompasses both PBEM and IP games

correct
if you search you'll actually find a couple of pbem games in this forum

quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Why did you bring this up in the first place?

it was in response to someone in the original thread. try reading it again

quote: I have NEVER seen != meaning an inverse proposition

ok so what did you think the ! was for?

	12-08-2002 20:00									#18
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I thought you made a typo, and I saw Mercator's post.

	13-08-2002 05:22									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 I have NEVER seen != meaning an inverse proposition, you will forgive me if my geekdom has yet to reach your level.

!= is commonly used in programming languages

	13-08-2002 13:01									#20
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard != is commonly used in programming languages

But never in normal languages.

	13-08-2002 13:05									#21
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quote: != is commonly used in programming languages

you know that kind of stuff?!?
what a geek!

	13-08-2002 19:37									#22
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Takes one to know one.

	14-08-2002 04:43									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: != is commonly used in programming languages you know that kind of stuff?!? what a geek!

stop bringing up all of my repressed memories

first dead kittens, and now horrible memories of C and C++ classes. you monster!