05-08-2002 20:52									#1
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What if another faction contacts you and asks you for a tech "or else...". How does the president decide what to do? He can't save the game and let Foreign Affairs post a poll, because you can't be sure that faction will contact you again if you replay the turn.

	05-08-2002 21:25									#2
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either minimise the game and then post the poll with the game still running, or just make the decision. i guess thats what being the leader is about.

	05-08-2002 21:32									#3
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In the Civ3 demo game we have Turnchats. The pres plays the game while in a chat and he consults the various ministers for orders.

	05-08-2002 21:34									#4
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make the dicision......but you will have to follow the general course of the minister...if he said in the last meeting we do not want war or we do not give anything away you do it. if everybody thing it is a bad dicision he leader wil probebly not be re-eletecd

	05-08-2002 22:32									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword if everybody thing it is a bad dicision he leader wil probebly not be re-eletecd

Scary.

	05-08-2002 22:47									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse In the Civ3 demo game we have Turnchats. The pres plays the game while in a chat and he consults the various ministers for orders.

Yes, however once the demo game grows and we get further and further into the game, turnchats become a hassle.

But yeah, just minimize and post a poll.

	06-08-2002 00:09									#8
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Or we could have a poll in advance, and decide beforehand what to do with different factions, before contact is made. So that we would have a general guideline of procedure that the Commissioner would follow, instead of having polls for every single situation. If we have a discussion with another faction that has over three tech trades, if we poll each one it'll take aeons to finish the talks.

	06-08-2002 00:11									#9
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yes let the ministers give direct orders and a general guide line to the president (sorry commissioner )that has to make the best of it

	06-08-2002 00:11									#10
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Turnchats and possibly turnthreads are the only way to go.

	06-08-2002 08:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Turnchats and possibly turnthreads are the only way to go.

I disagree. They're a right pain in the ass, especially for those of us who aren't in the US.

This could easily be solved by the foreign minister holding a poll beforehand, on what to do if this arises.

OR

Having a poll beforehand on our attitudes towards each faction (e.g. appease them at all costs, wipe the floor with them, get tough with them, etc.)

	06-08-2002 11:45									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Darkness' Edge I disagree. They're a right pain in the ass, especially for those of us who aren't in the US. This could easily be solved by the foreign minister holding a poll beforehand, on what to do if this arises. OR Having a poll beforehand on our attitudes towards each faction (e.g. appease them at all costs, wipe the floor with them, get tough with them, etc.)

But without them (turnchats), you cant make up for a situation you didnt predict. What if he cant save? he isn't going to leave it on forever. If they were doing a turnchat, he could simply ask.

But....whatevers most efficent works for me

	06-08-2002 12:05									#13
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The relevant minister could give the commissioner general advice, such as "Give nothing to Miriam" or "Give technology only on alternate Tuesdays after 9:00" and he can follow that as best he can.

	06-08-2002 17:10									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Darkness' Edge I disagree. They're a right pain in the ass, especially for those of us who aren't in the US.

Unless my eyes deceive me, I see more European than US flags. It seems the Americans will have a problem.

	06-08-2002 20:47									#16
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A combination of trunchats and polls would do the trick. Polls can be made before hand on how to handle diplomacy with a faction and the director can set in a chat while the commissioner plays so he'll be ready incase somthing comes up. ??

	06-08-2002 23:56									#17
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i agree to a general advice and/or specific order (tru polls)

	07-08-2002 02:47									#18
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Hmm. Or Turnchats with the Council. Anyway, I think the game should be minimized and at least the Foreign Affairs minister (if available) be consulted in these situations.

	07-08-2002 13:26									#19
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Darkness' Edge - I like the idea of polling beforehand on general strategies for each Faction. Whoever will be first Commish might not have the option of leaving their computer on with SMAC minimized until a poll has had enough results to make a decision.