07-08-2002 23:45									#61
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sweet dream Mohamed.

	07-08-2002 23:46									#62
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There are no little americans, only the "vertically challenged".

	07-08-2002 23:54									#64
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 sweet dream Mohamed.

DinoDoc is Mohamed? Strange, I'd think Mohammed was older than that...

	07-08-2002 23:54									#65
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Dino lies about his age.

	07-08-2002 23:56									#66
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he has a thrice split personality too. dino, moneypenny and mohamed (his spiritual side)



that's what u get for living in mississippi

	07-08-2002 23:57									#67
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That's why the US can never be deafeated, our people have three times the resources to fall back on.

	07-08-2002 23:59									#68
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Inthe case of dino, none of his 3 personalities wants to strengthen the US army though. They just talk.

	07-08-2002 23:59									#69
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Yes, and while your listening, we send other guys that kill you.

	08-08-2002 00:00									#70
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Yes, I always did suspect he was about 1400 years older than he says...

	08-08-2002 00:01									#71
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Yes, and while your listening, we send other guys that kill you



devilish

	08-08-2002 00:04									#72
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"Which were also the wishes of Mr. Powell. Nobody seems to remember that..."

And the wishes of Cheney and Bush Sr. and Scowcroft. Everybody was on board with ending it because we didn't have the appetite for a massacre.

As for Iraq nowadays, we are worried about Saddam Hussein's technology getting into the hands of terrorists. This is a legitimate concern that should be weighed against other practicalities.

The justification is already there--we don't need to renew it. Saddam is in breach of the cease fire that ended the first Gulf War.

	08-08-2002 00:58									#73
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I am not American, so bollocks to you

	08-08-2002 01:00									#74
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how rude.

	08-08-2002 02:51									#75
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quote: Originally posted by DanS As for Iraq nowadays, we are worried about Saddam Hussein's technology getting into the hands of terrorists. This is a legitimate concern that should be weighed against other practicalities.

But is that a legitimate concern? After all, al-Qaeda is fighting against Hussein in Northern Iraq (as well as against the Kurds, who have set up a secular government, seeing as they're Marxists).

	08-08-2002 03:31									#76
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As an American who has to pay taxes to the government, I oppose a war against Iraq.

I don't profess any interest in Saddam Hussein, or whether he lives or dies. I don't have any particular hatred for the Iraqi people, nor do I have any particular compassion for them above and beyond anybody else. What I do know is that the economy is in the doldrums right now, and Bush has already waged one war against Afghanistan. Every time I read about another million dollar missile used in the war, I question where my tax money is going. True, we need a defence force - every nation worth its salt does. But don't forget that deterrence is the only profit you will get from making a weapon. A dollar spent on a weapon is a dollar you're not getting back.

America has already proven to the world (as if any proof were needed) that its armed forces are more than adequate to avenge, repel, withstand, etc any foreign such force. The demonstration has been made. The rest of the world has seen.

I'd quite like the government to get back to sorting out the rising unemployment rate and mushrooming corporate fraud. Every time I hear the Bush adminstration issue another crack at Iraq, I wonder whether or not they're confusing their priorities. The weakening US economy was what kicked Bush snr out of office after one term. I'm not entirely sure that Saddam Hussein is responsible for that, regardless of how [twitchpinky] evil he may be.

	08-08-2002 04:10									#77
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When I think of the outcome: a free, democratic, pro-US, anti-terrorist Iraq vs. what we have if we do nothing: a country ruled by a WoMD-using, terrorist-supporting, megalomaniac who threatens both Israel and the United States with death and destruction, I am in favor. Ten years ago, I thought leaving Saddam in power was the right move. Now I know it was a mistake.

Schroeder and his ilk fear "instability." What does this mean really? A pro-West Iraq can't help but stabilize the region, IMHO.

	08-08-2002 04:17									#78
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attacking Iraq of course is a mistake.

Now if they gave us a good reason...

smack em' up

	08-08-2002 04:22									#79
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"But is that a legitimate concern?"

In my view, yes. Hussein pays $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian suicide bomber nowadays. He has already thrown in his lot with the likes of Hamas. Don't think we can assume he won't proliferate to these groups, even though he hasn't seemed too interested in the pan-Muslim fundamentalism that is our immediate enemy.

	08-08-2002 04:47									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Ned When I think of the outcome: a free, democratic, pro-US, anti-terrorist Iraq . . .

And where will this come from? Except for the Kurds, the population of Iraq hates the US. A democratic Iraq will break apart into a Shia controled Southern Iraq and a Kurdistan. The US wants neither, which is why we didn't go into Iraq ten years ago. Only a military dictatorship will hold Iraq together, which is what every government in the region (with the possible exception of Iran) wants.

	08-08-2002 04:50									#81
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Hussein pays $25,000 to the family of each Palestinian suicide bomber nowadays.

So do the Saudis, yet we aren't about to attack them. In fact, as everyone on these boards is well aware, the Saudis are central to the terror network opposing the US. Yet high-tech American weaponry hasn't ended up in terrorist hands ... at least not yet.

	08-08-2002 05:16									#82
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I think we're well aware of what Saudi individuals are doing and haven't whitewashed it. For instance, yesterday on the front page of the Post...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...3-2002Aug5.html

But I am not aware of a Saudi weapons of mass destruction program. Are you?

	08-08-2002 05:18									#83
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Except for the Kurds, the population of Iraq hates the US.

Why do the Kurds like us? I would have thought that after we sold them up the river they would, at best, only grudgingly tolerate us.

	08-08-2002 05:27									#84
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It will be an incredible mistake to attack Iraq. What the hell are we going to do there?

So we easily conquer them and kill Sadaam. Then what? Seriously, what are we going to do there?

Put up another military dictator? Great, he gets killed within five years for being pro-US and then another guy takes power, meanwhile we have pissed off the ME and led to a major reshuffling and tons of problems. Tons of deaths and who the hell knows what happens with Israel.

The whole idea is simply proposterous. I just don't understand why we are going to do this other than the entire Bush staff sees it as a way to solve their mistake ten years ago and at the same time shift the headlines from the floundering economy to the war in Iraq.

	08-08-2002 05:27									#85
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i'm sick of the US having to be the world's policeman, why do we have to invade and or liberate every third world trash heap in the name of human rights, etc, etc? let the UN deal with it, and maybe that way the rest of the world won't complain about our intervensionist policies anymore and America will be more liked

	08-08-2002 05:30									#86
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower let the UN deal with it,

	08-08-2002 05:34									#87
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um that should have been "let the UN try and deal with it"

my bad

	08-08-2002 05:34									#88
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Do you Believe in Santa Claus Too, H Tower?

	08-08-2002 05:50									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Do you Believe in Santa Claus Too, H Tower?

yes. don't you?

	08-08-2002 21:51									#90
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And what if the UN can't do it, H Tower? We not as Americans, but as humans must help those less fortunate than us.

I hate to do the old switcheroo but if you lived in a dying and dirty third world nation (oh btw... its "PC" now to call them developing nations) wouldn't you want the superpowers, the countries that have far more than they already need, to provide aid?