08-08-2002 08:16									#1
	MOO1 and Win98 Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

ANy ideas on how to free up more conventional memory? Everytime I try to run the game, it spits out into DOS with "Master of Orion requires at least 575K of conventional DOS memory". I've seen other threads addressing WinME issues, but it seems like everyone else running Win98 isn't having any problems. I've added the appropriate lines to the config.sys files and even modified the system.ini file to remove the EMMExclude references, all to no avail. Running MEM from teh DOS prompt gives me 640K total of conventional memory with 128K being used and only 512 available. Where can I get more memory from to run this game??

I have a P3 500 with 384Megs of RAM, so I'm now officially at a loss with what to do.

Zen

	08-08-2002 13:41									#2
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Mine runs just fine on a P3 450 using Win98
Don't remember whether I had to do anything special to get it to run though. I'll check the settings tonight to see how its working.

	08-08-2002 15:21									#3
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Don't remember now the actual commands, but msdos prompt can quite easily be configured to boot a "clean" boot and I think that may be enough. I've too had some problems to get old games running on Win98 but that's because for some reason high memory doesn't work. 575 shoudn't be a prob tough.

	08-08-2002 16:47									#4
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you have to remember / write down-
1. game location in dirctory tree
2. mouse driver location

during your boot-up phase press F8 and choose 'command prompt' from the menu..
on the command prompt activate your mousedriver..
eg. c:/tools/mouse/mouse.com
then go to game dir..
eg. cd c:/games/moo
and then type 'moo' or 'orion' or whatever the .exe is called..

it can be done more easily but this should work on all windows systems..

	08-08-2002 20:56									#5
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Hmm....trying to remember if I had issues.

I remember having problems running in a dos window.

Try creating a shortcut on your desk top and right click.
Select properties. (might be able to do this on the .exe as well)
It has been a while but there is some way to set-up a dos run that bypasses windowz and allows you to run a custom autoexec.bat and config.sys files. Problem is even though you might have good a.b and c.s files already, windows hoses them up with its own settings. You should try using yours first and then see if you need to make some mods.
The end effect is that you'll basically reboot into dos mode for the game and then when you quit you'll reboot back into windows. The os will do all of this for you.


Hope this helps!

	09-08-2002 02:17									#6
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I run now in XP PRO, so I booted by P4 running 98SE. I have Config.sys with the Device=C:\Windows\EMM.exe.
The pif for Orion properties has:
General - check for suggest DOS
Screen - Full
Mem - all at auto except EMS (2048)
Moo was config with no sound on that box so as to use less memory.

In case you are not familiar go to Run and enter Msconfig. When it comes up you can look at the tab for config to see what is being used. Nothing was added to autoexec.bat.

	16-08-2002 12:50									#7
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i will never run XP.. i will never turn to the dark side..

	16-08-2002 20:52									#8
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Then I guess you enjoy the system hangs and strange problems that haunt 98.

	19-08-2002 19:57									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Alphard i will never run XP.. i will never turn to the dark side..

But Luke, Xp is your father!

Seriously, I'm really liking XP. It is rock stable and has not crashed on me once. For Win98SE it was a daily occurence.