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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:21
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak
I paid for my own schooling as well, but I didn't live under mama's skirt while I did it. |
That's great for you, but it doesn't make sense for me to move away and go to school. I can't afford it.
Please don't try to use yourself as a success story in the future, either.
quote: Look at how insipid your behavior is, Asher...you need to grow up. |
Please, Sneak, I just don't have much of a tolerance of bullshit. You're always full of it, which is why we never get along. Others seem to not notice or look past it, and that's their problem, not mine.
quote: As for your Highlander harangue, the problem will still exist if not monitored...I don't see where the confusion is there? I have not stated otherwise...there is a problem. If it is not taken care of, it can ruin the car. Does that mean there isn't a problem? |
That's right, there isn't a problem. Just like most things in life, if you do things as directed it should work. If you do things not as directed and they don't work, there's not a problem with the design of the device or product.
Most cars rust if you never clean them and leave them sitting outside all day, most paint fades as well -- is this a "problem"?
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tandeetaylor
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Las Vegas
Apr 2001 time: 21:21
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While I have apsolutely no knowledge about the car question at hand, I think you are being very rude Sneak. I don't think there's anything wrong with living with your parents while you finish school, if it happens to suit your situation.
My father has always made it clear to me that if I ever needed he'd be there for me, just like his parents were for him after my mother left him and he had to move back home for awhile with two kids. If you're going to criticize Asher for living at home while going to school, then you had better be prepared to discount anyone who has had a similiar experience. Are you?
And we drive a 2001 Chevy Malibu.
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SuperSneak
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In the land of the one-eyed
Jun 2000 time: 21:21
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Ha ha ha....yeah...ok, Asher. That's why you have so many people always leaping to your defense. You're so beloved. Everyone is in awe of your ability to use search engines and pass yourself off as an expert on everything. I know I am. 
As for being full of bullshit, sorry--I've got the courage of my convictions and enough real life experience to know that you win some and you lose some...I'm certainly not always right, but I don't recall ever hearing you say the same thing.
You have a congenital inability to laugh at yourself or to be wrong...very dangerous and stunting traits for a young person.
As far as being a success story, I perceive that in your world money makes one successful, which is probably why you can't seem to leave the nest...too much comfort and you know you can't make it on your own devices. I'm degreed, employed, healthy, a parent, have lots of friends, stable in my sexuality, liked by my peers--I'm a self-made man--contrasted with you, I'm more successful by miles.
Tell us about your successes, Asher.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:21
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak
Ha ha ha....yeah...ok, Asher. That's why you have so many people always leaping to your defense. You're so beloved. Everyone is in awe of your ability to use search engines and pass yourself off as an expert on everything. I know I am.  |
I'm not an expert, but I do know when someone's trying to pull a fast one on me. It's harder to do that **** now that people have fast and easy access to the internet, Sneak, I'm sure you find it very difficult.
quote: As for being full of bullshit, sorry--I've got the courage of my convictions and enough real life experience to know that you win some and you lose some...I'm certainly not always right, but I don't recall ever hearing you say the same thing. |
I'm not always right either, and I have said that before on Poly believe it or not. 
quote: You have a congenital inability to laugh at yourself or to be wrong...very dangerous and stunting traits for a young person. |
I do have the ability to laugh at myself all the time. Sometimes I'm more in the mood for it than others.
I don't like being wrong, but sometimes I am. Fortunately in this case, I'm not. Which is why you're so gracefully avoiding the issue now and going back to the "I'm older than you so you'd better listen up you whipper-snapper" approach.
quote: As far as being a success story, I perceive that in your world money makes one successful, which is probably why you can't seem to leave the nest...too much comfort and you know you can't make it on your own devices. |
I'm not "leaving the nest" because it makes FAR more sense to stay than to leave right now. I'd end up farther away from campus if I moved, I'd end up paying twice my tuition in residence ALONE. There is no logic in that, Sneak.
quote: I'm degreed, employed, healthy, a parent, have lots of friends, stable in my sexuality, liked by my peers--I'm a self-made man--contrasted with you, I'm more successful by miles.
Tell us about your successes, Asher. |
Sure. I'm maintaining a stunning GPA in a field that actually will get me a real job, I'm employed, healthy, stable in my sexuality, liked by my peers, and have more than a little bit of common sense.
You may be successful by your standards, but you certainly aren't by mine. I'd hope someone your age with a degree would find a better job and a better environment for your child by the time they're your age, particularly since you supposedly have a degree (is it in something trivial like Women's Studies?).
Hell, you and your wife got married at a quickie marriage joint in Vegas, well after your first child was born.
I guess people have wildly different definitions of success around here.
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tandeetaylor
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Las Vegas
Apr 2001 time: 21:21
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
tandee why is Sneak being rude, but Asher, telling Sneak that he can't even do his job right (when he is no where NEAR the business), isn't? |
No, not if he is RIGHT. And I don't know that, do I? I already said I don't know anything about cars.
Criticizing someone for not knowing something that has to do with their job is better than attacking someone's arguments because of a personal detail that Asher is certainly not alone in.
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WhiteElephants
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Toledo Ohio
Mar 2000 time: 00:21
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT
Paid for the Rodeo in cash. Sweeeeet.  |
quote: Originally posted by Asher
Oh, and paid for it in cash. Much like the house. |
While you may take whatever amount of pride in having bought your vehicles with cash, from a financial standpoint you're both rather foolish. The fact is as you drive your new car off that lot it depreciates in value to the tune of thousands of dollars. In otherwords, you'd purchased something that is worth far less than what you'd paid for it. Hardly a good buy, by any standards.
The house, on the other hand may appreciate in value, though the appreciation in real estate the last 10 (?) years has been unprecidented. I believe you're all familiar with the tech bubble, no? Well all bubbles eventually have to burst and a real estate bubble isn't unheard of. The mere liquidity of capital that you both squandered in your purchases is nothing to joke about, but I digress.
So, in summary, next time you choose to brag about buying such-and-such in cash realize that the only people you're impressing are people much like youreselves with little inkling of the actually value of money.
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Dr Strangelove
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I drive a 1999 Ford Contour. My wife drives a 1995 Oldsmobile Cutlass station wagon.
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WhiteElephants
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Toledo Ohio
Mar 2000 time: 00:21
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quote: Originally posted by Asher
WhiteElephants: That's a weird way to look at it.
If you finance a car or a house, you pay interest. If you pay up front, you pay zero interest.
If you lease a car or a house, you're paying money for something you will never own and won't be able to sell at all when you're done with it... |
Correct, but the money you lose by paying up front prevents you from using that money at all and you have an item that isn't worth what you paid for it ever again, while paying monthly you own a vehicle that is worth far more than you paid for it until your payments catch up with depreciation.
Besides the interest rates on car and home loans are tiny, especially these days. Now I wouldn't suggest habitually using a high interest rate credit card to do all your shopping, but there is in fact an advantage to loans.
What you've choosen to do, unwittingly or not, is to sacrafice the liquidity of your capital -- in other words the opportunity to use your capital to make your capital work for you -- to avoid paying low interest rates on a loan that you may very well have exceed in profit percentage wise by investing it in various avenues.
You sacraficed opportunity and liquidity to purchase something that isn't worth nearly what you paid for it.
You wouldn't buy a candy bar for twenty dollars would you? It isn't worth that much, right? So, why would you pay more for a car than it's worth?
In your situations you've lost capital, liquity, and opportunity to own something that isn't worth what you paid for. Hardly something to brag about.
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