12-08-2002 22:03									#1
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Am I the only one around here, who is annoyed having to write the save game name each time (When you have tons of save-games, it's not that easy to just find the needed save game on the list)?

I don't like the thing, that it everytime I press ctrl+s (save game menu), the default save game name is: "{leadername} {Civ} {Age}", and if you just use this default name, then you end up having tons of different save-games...

If it'd just remembered the last save game name, then I'd be happy...

	12-08-2002 23:07									#2
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Am I the only one around here, who is annoyed having to write the save game name each time (When you have tons of save-games, it's not that easy to just find the needed save game on the list)? I don't like the thing, that it everytime I press ctrl+s (save game menu), the default save game name is: "{leadername} {Civ} {Age}", and if you just use this default name, then you end up having tons of different save-games... If it'd just remembered the last save game name, then I'd be happy...

Umm, Overwrite? This could be the solution for you. If not, just stop complaining about petty things like this j/k

	12-08-2002 23:29									#3
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Does it selfexplains, that I overwrite my savegame every time I save?

So it seems like you're missing the point of the thread...

	12-08-2002 23:32									#4
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I keep my save game file on my desktop, for easy disposal

	12-08-2002 23:40									#5
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(Default file name: {leadername} {civ} {YEAR} )

Windows or Macintosh??

In Windows (I am using Windows XP), it remembers the last saved game with no problems.

On Macintosh, if you use the Civ interface then no problems either. If you use the Macintosh interface, then it does not remember the last game saved. I am using system 9.1 and I just click the "last modified" column which sorts by date and your latest save will always be on the top (or click the column a second time and it will be on the bottom). I much prefer the Macintosh interface, other than you are limited in the length of the filename.
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Or did I misunderstand your whole point? Do you want just one save file throughout time? Since the default is always going to include the date, which I find quite useful, a way to limit your number of game saves would be to just have easy access to the 'saves' folder/directory and delete the old ones.

	12-08-2002 23:41									#6
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quote: Originally posted by candybo I keep my save game file on my desktop, for easy disposal

??? This has nothing to do with the thread? It's not about being able to delete the files, it's about being able to just save the game, without having to enter the whole save game name again...and again...and again...

But I guess it's just annoying for me, since I'm among the few people, who save the game each minute or something like that (I just can't stop doing it)

	12-08-2002 23:43									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe ---- Or did I misunderstand your whole point? Do you want just one save file throughout time? Since the default is always going to include the date, which I find quite useful, a way to limit your number of game saves would be to just have easy access to the 'saves' folder/directory and delete the old ones.

Ummmm, yeah



Ok, sorry. Yours doesn't autoscript?

	12-08-2002 23:48									#8
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Using a different default name each time you start a game will solve this problem. Be creative.

	12-08-2002 23:49									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe In Windows (I am using Windows XP), it remembers the last saved game with no problems.

Strange...I'm also using WinXP, but it keeps forgetting it!!! I have formatted (and reinstalled) several times, but it have never remembered anything...It only remembers the last savegame, when I want to load a game, but not when saving...

	12-08-2002 23:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Slax Using a different default name each time you start a game will solve this problem. Be creative.

Ehmmm...the default name can't be changed!?! Or am I missing your point here?

	12-08-2002 23:54									#11
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quote: Originally posted by ADG quote: Originally posted by Jaybe In Windows (I am using Windows XP), it remembers the last saved game with no problems. Strange...I'm also using WinXP, but it keeps forgetting it!!! I have formatted (and reinstalled) several times, but it have never remembered anything...It only remembers the last savegame, when I want to load a game, but not when saving...

Same for me.

As far as having tons of saves, I clean out all the ones I don't want to keep when ever it starts getting real bad.

	12-08-2002 23:55									#12
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Strange...I'm also using WinXP, but it keeps forgetting it!!! I have formatted (and reinstalled) several times, but it have never remembered anything...It only remembers the last savegame, when I want to load a game, but not when saving...

If you want to save the game with the same name as already exists, then click on the existing filename. You can then edit the name to save as if you wish.

	12-08-2002 23:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe If you want to save the game with the same name as already exists, then click on the existing filename. You can then edit the name to save as if you wish.

Well...that's the problem I mentioned in my first post. It'll take even longer to find the savegame, when you have tons of then (That shouldn't be deleted...I'm not the only one using this computer)...

	13-08-2002 00:14									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Well...that's the problem I mentioned in my first post. It'll take even longer to find the savegame, when you have tons of then (That shouldn't be deleted...I'm not the only one using this computer)...

Are you saying that you have multiple PEOPLE playing Civ3 on that computer? If so, I would recommend making a separate directory for each player, nested within the "saves" directory.

Unfortunately, the game will probably try to find a game to load within the "saves" directory, so you will have to still manually find your correct game file. At least you will only be looking through the stack of YOUR games!

	13-08-2002 00:55									#15
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I usually only save when I quit my session or if I've been playing for over 1 hour. So, I use the same save game name regardless. I always shorten it to "China" or "America". Civ III always highlights the last save game I saved to when I start it up the next time.

	13-08-2002 01:35									#16
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I don't usually save my games; when I do save my games, I try to give them meaningful name because I often start another game to test out certain theory before I come back to finish what I was planning to do.

	13-08-2002 01:44									#17
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he wants to have a save game like "Aztec Game" that when he hits ctrl+s.

perhaps they should call that "save as" and add a "save" that overrites the file (ctrl+shift+s)

	13-08-2002 02:02									#18
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX he wants to have a save game like "Aztec Game" that when he hits ctrl+s. perhaps they should call that "save as" and add a "save" that overrites the file (ctrl+shift+s)

Exactly

That reminds me: I'm also pretty tired of having to say "Yes" each time it asks me if it should overwrite the save game...

	13-08-2002 11:46									#19
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The savegame-interfaces is not perfect, I too, am annoyed by having to confirm the overwrite every time I save the game.

One thing I've been thinking about myself is moving the old/finished savegames to another directory. I once overwrote a old game (that I wanted to keep) with my current game because of my "yeah, yeah, overwrite already!"-feeling.

I haven't had civ3 for a long time yet, and I so far I've named the savegames by the number of the game. I'm currently in my fifth game, aptly named "femma" (Finnish slang for 'five' which derives from the Swedish word for 5: 'fem')


BTW, I still have tons of Civ-1 savegames left, I used to save them with the default name resulting in *LOTS* of savegames.

edit: removed the duplicate word word
added: 'femma' is actually more commonly used to describe the 5 (finnish) mark coin (or the 5€ bill nowdays) rather than the number five

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	13-08-2002 12:50									#20
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If you're imaginative with saving, this might be a problem. I call everything "Dave".

	13-08-2002 13:01									#21
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I would like the save to default to the last (sub-)folder I saved to, instead of to the main saves folder. Or at least to have that as an option.

	13-08-2002 13:01									#22
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I have 4 savegame files:
Robert1
Robert2
Robert3
Robert4

(my name is Robert, in case you wondered )
I start with 1, then save to 1 a couple of times, then CLICK on 2 (not much work) etc. etc. etc.

hardly any work.
btw, you don't have to save everyturn if you just turn on autosave

	13-08-2002 13:02									#23
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oh, and in case you wondered, after Robert4 I go back to Robert1. Thought I should explain that

	13-08-2002 20:38									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ribannah I would like the save to default to the last (sub-)folder I saved to, instead of to the main saves folder. Or at least to have that as an option.

That's a good idea. I would like that very much.

	18-08-2002 03:27									#25
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In Alpha Centauri (SMAC) the save function was smarter, IMHO: if you liked to change a part of the name, it keep it as default for next save, changing only the untouched part of the name (e.g. the years sequence), or overwriting over and over the same name if you removed every variable parts.

I mean, in a Civ III example I should be able to take the first save game suggested as "Cleopatra of the Egyptians, 3900BC" and, changing it only once and forever for that game as "Cleopatra, 3900BC" the game will keep the name I used for every save, only changing the year.

I wonder why Firaxis killed this smart feature: I remember an old post when someone from Firaxis asked for suggestion about the save function, but I can't remember anyone suggesting to cut it so much!

Another thing I don't like is the bad practice to put the default \saves directory under Windows \Programs Files with .exe, libraries and so on.

Given the most (Windows) used standard to put data files into Documents and settings\username\ I wonder why Firaxis doesn't put this same standard into Civ III Save function.
It would help us to backup Civ save files with other relevant files, and in Win 2000/XP would help us to keep different user savefiles each at different place, an automatic way to have what Jaybe suggested some posts before mine.

	18-08-2002 04:44									#26
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quote: Originally posted by ADG That reminds me: I'm also pretty tired of having to say "Yes" each time it asks me if it should overwrite the save game...

Oh yes. I'm planning to lead The Million Civers March on Hunt Valley to protest this.

	18-08-2002 12:24									#27
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try labeling your next save as "NEWEST GAME" or something like that but the problem is in a few months you'll have 50 "NEWEST SAVE " GAMES
here's another idea, try to complete a game b4 u start another then u can delete the old one.

	18-08-2002 14:02									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Adm.Naismith Given the most (Windows) used standard to put data files into Documents and settings\username\ I wonder why Firaxis doesn't put this same standard into Civ III Save function.

I defently DON'T like that idea. How it is now, it's 10X better, since you then know where the save games are...

They have this in GTA3, and I was about to lose my savegame, last time I formated my HD...I just can't see the point of this, I didn't know they had this bad idea included, until someone, the day reinstalled WinXP again, said he'd lost the savegame to the game, because of this...But lucky me, I had made a backup copy of the whole /username dir, instead of just the favorites as I usually do...

	18-08-2002 14:06									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Sea41571 here's another idea, try to complete a game b4 u start another then u can delete the old one.

I can't just delete the other users save game files, you know!

I have always just 2 files (the other file is the "just-in-case" file, I have been a couple of times, in the situation were I couldn't load the savegame file)...And those two files, always has the same name, so you're missing the point of the thread!!!

	26-08-2002 01:11									#30
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quote: Originally posted by ADG I defently DON'T like that idea. How it is now, it's 10X better, since you then know where the save games are...

Of course you can like it or not, but sure as hell is a standard (in Windows NT, 2000, XP) way to separate users environments each others.
I understood that was one of your trouble, to find and separate your savegames from others users of your PC...

As I said before, the side effects of this standard is you can easily save every relevant data files, without browsing all your HD searching for dedicated \DATA or \SAVE or \DOCUMENT every programmer team chose to use