15-08-2002 02:41									#31
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This is truly sad. I've read about this abduction in the paper. I hope they are found alive and well.

	15-08-2002 02:45									#32
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The police seem to have solid proof that the girls are alive (not that they can tell us, of course) - the police officer in charge of the investigation made a direct appeal to the kidnapper today, from what he said it seemed pretty clear that they had some contact with the kidnapper recently, but don't know where he is.

	15-08-2002 02:59									#33
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child abduction is always sad. If they are still alive, it would be great. But in the US, at least, these cases rarely turn out good. The bodies of the children are usually found with evidence of sexual abuse. The kidnapper(s) are then usually found, but it is impossible for them to take back what horrible deeds they have done. In the US, though, we have the death penalty, which is a fitting end to such sick bastards - though sometimes they only get life in prison.

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	15-08-2002 03:01									#34
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with each day that passes it becomes less likely that they will be found alive.
there was a similar case involving a little girl last year. she was killed.

death is too good for these bastards.

	15-08-2002 03:09									#35
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Kramerman is right, it is unlikely they are alive, precendent has shown us that the results of scenarios like this are generally worst case. It will probably be some paedophile who has taken then, abused them and killed them for his own pleasure, to give him a feeling of power. Must be a sad lowlife indeed...

	15-08-2002 03:11									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov DD, for a long time, French prisons were regarded among the worst on the planet. Read Les Miz...

Or even worse look at the Prison they maintained at Devil's Island

	15-08-2002 03:14									#37
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Since they've been missing for ten days the likelihood that they're alive is really very small, unless they were from a broken family, which offers the hope that they were taken by the non-custodial parent. Were they from a wealthy family? If so perhaps they were taken for ransom, but frankly since the end of the Warsaw Pact kidnapping for profit has become very rare.

	15-08-2002 03:15									#38
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...yes, as portrayed in Papillon Shi...

	15-08-2002 03:16									#39
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No. It's not a custody or ransom thing I'm afraid.

The first guess in these cases would usually be to suspect the parents, but because the girls escaped from their house and were later caught on CCTV camera's at the local leisure centre it seems they ran off for some reason and were kidnapped.

	17-08-2002 18:07									#40
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...1061152,00.html



To arrest them for murder suggests the police have evidence that the children are now dead.

	17-08-2002 18:13									#41
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Cases like that rarely end well with the victim(s) are missing for this long, SD.

	17-08-2002 18:24									#42
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I know, that is why a prior post of mine expected the children to be dead.

There was still the possibility they were locked up in some basement though.

	17-08-2002 19:36									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I take genuine offense that you would say that a French prison is worse than Parchman during its peak. PS Is there a site I could go to in order to get some idea what EU prisons are like?

French prisons are particularly notorious. The Nordic countries are probably the only ones with better standards than the US. The difference is that they don't imprison people on the same scale as the US does (rates are 3-4(?) times higher)...

	17-08-2002 19:48									#44
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2199785.stm

	17-08-2002 21:31									#45
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I knew it wouldnt end well...*sigh*
When will the world be truly civilized? I want to live in a day and age where I dont have to worry about my children (potential) and horrors like this. Why? For mere kicks and Giggles? I dont get it...

	17-08-2002 22:02									#46
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Is anyone else surprised at the recent spate of prominent child kidnapping/child porn news stories?

	17-08-2002 22:05									#47
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Not really. It makes for good copy on the news. I'd have to check the stats but I don't think that there has been any sort of material increase in the commission of this sort of crime.

	18-08-2002 03:29									#48
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That's why I said news stories. Why are the media focusing on it so much?

	18-08-2002 03:40									#49
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1) skynews reports are actually very good and they very informative. the problem is that they want to be like the televized Sun all too much.

2) I really really hate people who abuse defenseless children or women. If there's one good reason to have Capital Punishment - that would be it.

Either that or leave them with the parents in a basement with all the tools the parents want.

	18-08-2002 03:44									#50
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I must say that I agree with JohnIII.

While this is obviously a horrific story and the public cares alot, there's no reason for it to be covered 24-7. I swear, 50 out of 60 minutes in each hour for the last 48 hours, on skynews, were devoted to them girls.

Not that I don't think they don't deserve it - heck, if they could be found well and alive it would be the best thing, but how about giving the people involved a rest?

	18-08-2002 03:48									#51
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Its Diana mentality.

Although I did actually sense genuine concern coming from the people who were emotional over the childrens disappearance, which is more than I can say for other such cases.

	18-08-2002 04:15									#52
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quote: Either that or leave them with the parents in a basement with all the tools the parents want.

Better be careful when saying stuff like this, or people like Che will accuse you of being a 'sick bastard that the world needs protection from'. I had to go through this personal attack and it wasnt very fun. I havent seen him in a while though, so your in the clear, I think

	19-08-2002 14:29									#53
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The media should piss off from Soham now.

	19-08-2002 22:00									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes Maybe they were attacked by some drunken Man.City fans...

Oi, NO. Man City fans are decent

	20-08-2002 00:37									#55
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I love Che and Che loves me