14-08-2002 08:01									#1
	Unofficial : Can you upgrade to version 1.29 ? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

This is an unofficial poll, and doesn't bind us to anything. It's intend is for informatin purpose only.

As you probably know, we are playing the game under version 1.21f. Many of us upgraded already, but the officials still play with 1.21f.

We didn't upgrade out of respect of those who cannot upgrade, because they have a local version of Civ3, or a Mac version.
However, we don't know if anybody here has such "unupgradable" softwares.
The purpose of this poll is to show how many people will actually be barred from playing the game if we upgrade.

Question is : can you upgrade to version 1.29f
Answers : Yes / No

No expiration date.

	14-08-2002 08:02									#2
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Yes I can and thanks for asking

	14-08-2002 08:05									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

If you already upgraded, please vote yes.
If you can't upgrade, please don't hesitate to vote no, don't restrict yourself.

Thanks in advance

	14-08-2002 10:52									#4
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I have both versions installed. Remember what the Firaxian said, that v1.21 savegames loaded into v1.29 could experience some weird effects. Do we risk that?

	15-08-2002 00:26									#5
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Yes, but should we?
We started this game under 1.21 so we might as well finish it that way. Who knows, maybe there is something in the upgrade that may drastically effect our game. Also, there is the issue with the saves as noted above.

	15-08-2002 00:34									#6
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Who voted no? Explain yourself!!


If we switch, I believe the changes we will notice are:
* More aggressive AI
* Techs worth more to AI
* Change in getting tech speed for Apolytonia (Forgot if faster or slower)

	15-08-2002 00:43									#7
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If something really bad happens from upgrading we can always blame it on the kooky "The One" groupie for bringing in his foreign "god".

You know, the one that only he can hear....

	15-08-2002 02:15									#8
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Actually, I just did.

	15-08-2002 04:30									#9
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1.29 is the way of the future no doubt.

Perhaps the "weird effects" would be interesting.

	15-08-2002 04:47									#10
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* Epistax ignores no's until someone fesses up

	15-08-2002 05:10									#11
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i have had 0% problems converting from v1.21 to 1.29. none at all. it was a pain to switch back. there is no 'weird effects' at all. who said no, because if all the ministers (and a large majority of the people) can upgrade, then we should.

edit: 0% problems with my saves

	15-08-2002 08:05									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Epistax If we switch, I believe the changes we will notice are: * More aggressive AI * Techs worth more to AI * Change in getting tech speed for Apolytonia (Forgot if faster or slower)

Our research will be slower, and so will the comps. The AI now always has the original tech cost of 10 that you have on regent, and it's your research that gets affected by the difficulty level's AI cost factor. Thus on Chieftan and Warlord (with 1.29), research for the human is cheaper than for the comp. On Regent, it's the same as the comp. On the three higher levels, human research is costlier than the comp.

IIRC, Firaxis did this to try to balance out the rate at which the tech tree advanced, so that civs wouldn't still be running around with Knights in 2000 AD on Chieftan, and using Tanks at 1500 AD on the highest levels.

	16-08-2002 00:22									#13
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I *COULD* upgrade. In fact I once HAD upgraded. I had to revert back though, since I lack a half decent computer that could handle two installs.

	16-08-2002 01:36									#14
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hi ,

, if you can poll here , then one should be able to upgrade , .....

have a nice day