14-08-2002 10:19									#1
	Scenario Preview: Appeasment and Agression Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Here are some screenshots from my nearly complete WW2 era scenario 'Appeasement and Agression'. The Scenario covers Europe between 1936 and 1950 and will be optimised for PBEM play [which is actually easier then designing it to be played by a single player ]

I still have to do the following things: add events, fix bugs in tech tree, test the units stats and do some playtesting. I *hope* to have most of these done by the end of this weekend

Screenshot 1: The map. You should be able to guess the civs which I'm using

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	14-08-2002 10:24									#2
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Screenshot 2: German and Soviet forces in action in the Donets basin. The really nice looking infantry units were made by Winterfritz by shrinking units by Captain Nemo, Alex Mor and GukGuk

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Screenshot 3: British forces go on the offencive in the Libyan desert.

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	14-08-2002 10:30									#4
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I like the cow and the infantry units look great.

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Screenshot 1: The map. You should be able to guess the civs which I'm using

Hobbits, Elves, Dwarves, Gondor, Mordor, Easterlings, Neutrals, and Barbarians.

	14-08-2002 13:22									#6
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Very nice. I can't figure out how Czechoslovakia, Finland, Switzerland, etc. all are going to operate as one civ though. Ditto Poland, Spain, Turkey, etc. Which is the Barb civ?

BTW, I have something similar in the works, though it's the entire world. The working title is "Global War".

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D.P.

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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Screenshot 1: The map. You should be able to guess the civs which I'm using Hobbits, Elves, Dwarves, Gondor, Mordor, Easterlings, Neutrals, and Barbarians.

Er, not quite.

quote: Originally posted by Techumseh Very nice. I can't figure out how Czechoslovakia, Finland, Switzerland, etc. all are going to operate as one civ though. Ditto Poland, Spain, Turkey, etc. Which is the Barb civ?

Czechoslovakia, Switzerland the Low countries and the Nordic Countries will be represented by the 'neutral democracies' civ. Spain, Portugal and Eastern Europe will likewise be represented by the 'Neutral Dictatorships' civ. Neither of these civs will be playable, and neither of them will have any units capable of movement, meaning that you can invade Czechoslovakia without having to worry about a Dutch Blitzkrieg.

Austria is set up as Italian because a) Mussilini claimed to be it's 'protector' b) it will either introduce tension between Italy and Germany or force them apart and c) it will slow the German march to the Black Sea.

Yugoslavia is going to be represented by the barbarians mainly because I didn't want the neutral dictatorships to have such a large piece of real estate, but also due to a certain person of Polish decent getting cranky when I sugested making Poland the barb nation

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Does this mean that Sweden won't be neutral?

	15-08-2002 01:26									#10
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Wow, this pretty much fills the space which I intended to fill with my WWII PBEM thats 95% done now. First I found out someone has already used the name I was intending, and now this. Case, we must be like twins or something because these kinda look simmilar. Mine starts in '39, and would you believe that I too chose to do a little infantry combining. I didnt shrink them any, but wow, friggin coincinence.

I have some things different though. Hopefully they can co-exist.

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	15-08-2002 01:33									#11
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PS: Is that Rodmistev's Guardsmen from Stalingrad I see as the multi-soviet troops?

	15-08-2002 03:52									#12
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The unit graphics look excellent! I really like the 'clusters' of infantry units - looks more realistic when used in combination with the singular armor units and such.

I'm also working on a new WW2 type scenario but it is meant for single play based on the whole world. I am tempted to ask permission to use some of your unit graphics!!!

Michael

	16-08-2002 05:01									#13
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Yes, the Red Army unit is a shrinked version of your Rodmistev's Guardsmen. I may shrink the yellow badge on their chests.

Michael: PM me your email and I'll sent them to you bear in mind that I've done almost nothing on the units - they were originally made by the authors listed above and were shrunk and arranged by Winterfritz. All I've done is select the units and fiddled around a bit with Fritz's fine work.

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I love those infantry units!

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Case, this looks amazing! when is it going to be released?

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quote: when is it going to be released?

When it's done, which will hopefully be sometime in the next month.

BTW, what's with the Aussie flag?

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Yeah I was going to ask the same thing

Case: the scenario looks good It probably won't drown out FMK's Lebenstraum/Untitled Just look at how many Israel scenarios are thriving at CivFanatics

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Keep up the good work, Case. It looks like an awesome scenerio.

	18-08-2002 09:15									#19
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I've been having a surprising degree of sucess with miniturising units with paint, and here are some more infantry units. The guys on the left are probably going to be used as marines and the guys on the right as Americans.

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	19-08-2002 00:53									#20
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The new unit style is looking interesting quite better than the standard one-unit symbols we are used to have in Civ. It looks like the unit-style of the Napoleon-warfare packs from talonsoft. Did you get the idea from there?

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AFAIK he got the idea from Bonaparte 2 like me. Whilst playtesting it I was inspired to create some similar units by shrinking down originals and cutting and pasting a bunch together. The results were so encouraging that a scenario grew out of it, Roma Eterna, which is almost finished now.

Perhaps I should start a preview thread too

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Yep, that's correct

	29-08-2002 10:09									#23
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I'm getting rather close to having a playable version of this scenario done. All that's left to do is to finish off the events and fix a couple of minor bugs in the tech tree.

I've also settled on a good way to impliment American involvement. When Paris gets occupied Britain will recieve a tech called 'US Support'. This tech will give the British a certain amount of money each turn (which represents US loans and arms sales) and more importantly will act as the prerequisite for the tech 'US Build Up'. This second tech will begin the build up of American troops in Britain (duh) and will act as the prerequiste for the tech 'American Armour' which in turn will supply the British (and any surving French) with M-4s.


Just a question though: what would be some suitable wonders for France and Italy? At present France has The Maginot Line [=Great Wall] and French Government [=Statue of Liberty], but I can't think of anything which would be suitable for Italy.

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What do they need? Happiness? Economic? Scientific?

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I'm just looking for names of suitable wonders to go in Italy

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Here are some ideas from Florence: http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/user...renceStuff.html

Also, Leaning Tower of Pisa, Roman Colosseum, Sistine Chapel, St. Peter's Basilica, or the Grand Canal or Piazza St. Marco in Venice.

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Or, for things more modern, you could maybe have something like "First Fascist Government" (not true I know, but *shrug*) and whatnot.

	08-09-2002 15:16									#28
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What about the Vatican in Rome? It would be JS Bach's Cathedral or Oracle or something similar.

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Spain and Turkey are both ripe for colonization. How will this scenario handle the founding of new cities? Also, why is Danzig a different civ than the rest of Poland?

By the way, "me-too" on the grouped infantry. They'd really look good in a WWI "storming the trenches" scenario.

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quote: Spain and Turkey are both ripe for colonization. How will this scenario handle the founding of new cities?

By starting with the maximum number of cities.

quote: Also, why is Danzig a different civ than the rest of Poland?

Danzig was under some kind of wierd league of nations rule. As such, I made it a member of the democractic neutrals so that Britain and France are bound to protect it. There's a RR around the city so that the Germans can move stuff too and from East Prussia.