08-05-2000 04:22									#91
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Perhaps the people of Australia could be persuaded to take up an offering of gold for the Native Americans. It is a thought to consider...

And perhaps we have misjudged the Roman people. A noble gift indeed - although repentance often comes in the pits of despair.

	08-05-2000 15:07									#92
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	09-05-2000 09:06									#93
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Your reasons seem fair Noble St Jon, and as one of your ships has now docked on Welsh coastline I understand your actions.

Safe passage my friend.

Hmmm, TAFKAB's 'Suicide Squad' has disappeared. They may well have come to their senses and sought refuge in the nearest town, or they may well be attempting suicide at Caeserea. The Welsh Intelligence Service Elect (The WISE) will have a full report next turn.

	09-05-2000 04:31									#94
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The Mayan government feels that despite our differences of opinions regarding the war against the Romans, we hold the Australians in high regard. Indeed, they were valued trading partners while we held the Labyrinth.

Had that Australians been the first to attack the Romans, the Mayans may have also beeen slow to join the fray. Who's to say what would of happened had we been in their shoes.

Irregardless, we await the arrival of the Australian diplomat with anticipation and joy. To hear the sermonizing of a native of Australia in person will be a pleasure. We do hope that the diplomat will be as clear-spoken as the vaunted St Jon.

We do require that the Australian fleet arrive at a predetermined city, so our stewards will be prepared. As you already have our maps, I will notify you which city will be honored with the great task of greeting the diplomat.

As per policy imposed upon the Mayan diplomat, the Australian diplomat will be allowed to set up an embassy and then he will be required to leave.

	09-05-2000 05:23									#95
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The Australian 'Disciples' are deeply concerned at what they perceive as subtle hostility from the Maya. Sarcasm is detected, which is deeply offensive to all humanity, for who is to complain that 'The Guiltless One' should plead for mankind to enjoin in, love and cooperation, and, openess and honesty!

Advance notice of the desired point of arrival for our Envoy would be appreciated so as to prevent any delays or misunderstandings. The World is bad enough with 'The Beast' without any squabbles between friends arising due to confusion over a diplomatic itinerary.

Our friends and allies would do well to remember that Australia is their, and the World's, friend. We have endured the massive suffering and loss of War as have you, we are your brothers!

Love to you all
St Jon.

	09-05-2000 07:44									#96
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The very idea of sarcasm is a foreign concept to those of the Mayan Race - it has been said, in fact, that the Mayan people lack a sense of humor. We speak only what is truth, and know no other way.

If we all would spend more time speaking the truth plainly, needless conflicts would be avoided...

Indeed, the Australians were willing to allow the Mayans to set up an embassy there - and we are compelled, as a gracious and honourable people to allow the Australians the same courtesy.

Nothing more or nothing less.

	09-05-2000 20:22									#97
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Turn 93 to Demos.

The Omniscient One is delighted at the eagerness shown by the Roman people to adopt the true path to salvation as represented by me.

St Jon, Mankinds Only Hope for Peace.

	10-05-2000 00:15									#98
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Turn 93 ==> Tom Red

	10-05-2000 22:53									#99
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The Romans do seem to have been misunderstood.

The Australians gold has yet to arrive.

Apart from that - life goes on.

Chief Tom Red

	11-05-2000 04:19									#100
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The Mayans kindly request that the Australians proceed to the city of Uaxactun to establish an embassy there. He will have to leave after establishing the embassy, unless the Australians are willing to give some gifts to the Mayans to help defray the costs of said diplomat.

The Mayans also welcome the Assyrian diplomat - he is welcome to establish an embassy, but he will have to leave as soon as he is done establishing the embassy. Perhaps we can come to a agreed map exchange in the near future - as well as some science gifting and exchanging - BTW, I notice that you are in need of some science.

Hextapul
The Moral Compass of the World
[This message has been edited by hexagonian (edited May 10, 2000).]

	11-05-2000 05:58									#101
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The Australian Diplomatic Mission has been directed to Uaxactun as requested. Our Diplomat will depart upon the successful establishment of full formal relations.

Why is it that both the Maya and the Indians have decided that Australia is owing of some of debt? We gave gladly of our knowledge but have no more to give and Australia is the poorest of nations barely able to pay her, entirely free, workforce enough to live upon. There appears to be a misconception that Australia enjoys great riches when she is but a poverty stricken nation of subsistance farmers and factory workers.

End your wars brothers and sisters that we too might send our soldiers home to better the lives of our people!

The World asks much of us already that we should have to take up peace keeping missions in 'The Land of the Beast' without regarding us as both a font of free knowledge and a line of free credit.

St Jon, Defender of Innocence.

	11-05-2000 19:51									#102
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Turn 94 to Demos.

	11-05-2000 23:18									#103
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Turn 94 ==> Tom Red

	12-05-2000 16:19									#104
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I'm sorry for the misunderstandings arisen with the Australians. The legend of Australian Gold was seemingly a result of the mistranslation of the sentence "anything I can do you just need to ask". Now this has been resolved we can move on from this myth.

Secondly there was a person impersonating an Australian diplomat in our western territories. Despite asking through the international community (see previous posts) about this man’s intentions the Australians chose not to recognise him and must therefore assume him to be a spy - I think the Australians should be aware that such an impostor is abusing their great name and saintly reputation.

Fortunately the Latin nation has been true to its word - thanks mate.

[This message has been edited by Tom Red (edited May 12, 2000).]

	13-05-2000 00:49									#105
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Australia is being falsly accused by the Primitives. The important word was 'can' and as Australian and Roman levels of scientific advancement have been identical many many turns it meant that we 'cannot' aid you with science. Where the idea has arisen from that Australia is rich I know not but would assume it to be nothing more than Mayan mischief making.

As for the placement of a Diplomat on our common border be assured that it is entirely innocent. The NA penchent for Slavery is well known and we have to be prepared for anything.

I beg the World to show some sympathy toward the poor suffering Australian people as they struggle in inhospitable terrain and enduring the enormity of expense entailed by maintaining an adequate standing Army. It is the rest of the World that should be offering Australia financial aid as a gesture of thanks for our scrifices to save mankind from death and destruction.

St Jon the Magnanimus.

	13-05-2000 01:57									#106
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'Mayan mischief making?!?!' - Indeed the very thought of that concept is laughable indeed. What mischief has the Mayan people wrought?

The Mayans merely seek to gently remind others of the promises and statements made in these public forums - for it is by those words that the true intent of a man is revealed - measured against his actions.

If you do not want to give the Native Americans anything, so be it. It is your right - but who is to say that future Australian declarations will be met with anything but skepticism.

I still hold out hope that this will not be the case - that honesty and truth will be the norm in the world, and St Jon an example of those concepts.

Hextapul
'Bringing the Light of Truth to the World since 4000BC'

	13-05-2000 02:53									#107
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Mayan mishief making continues!

Australia can only give that which she possesses and our level of scientific attainment is the same as of the Latins so our learning is unneeded and we are a poor nation without the ability to donate large sums of money unlike the owner of a previously used Labyrinth.

Australia has broken no promises, treaties or undertakings. Honesty and Integrity are the two most important words in the Australian vocabulary.

Once again we are the victims of falsehoods and blackening inneuendo.

Everyones Friend.
St Jon the Benign.

	13-05-2000 03:00									#108
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Sorry, Double Posting.
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	13-05-2000 15:09									#109
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Turn 95 to Demos.

	13-05-2000 17:47									#110
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Brothers and Sisters.

The Omniscient Sainted One is going on a pilgrimage on Monday, 15th May until Friday, 2nd June. Between those dates Brother Mobius has agreed to assume the reins of power.

	13-05-2000 23:49									#111
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Turn 95 ==> Tom Red

Good fortune st Jon. We hope that you find your spiritual nirvana....

	14-05-2000 05:25									#112
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	14-05-2000 09:54									#113
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News from the Assyrian front, Rome is putting up a stronger resistance then expect on this front. The Assyrian generals shrugged this off however stating, that no war is a cake walk.

	14-05-2000 12:54									#114
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I am horrified to hear that my dearest Allies are struggling against the might of 'The Beast'. Noble Hextupal where is your soul? How can you sit back and watch the sufferings of others without lifting a finger to support them?

Australia has poured all that she possesses into this conflict and has withstood grievous casualties in the cause of peaceful expansion. This war is your war and yet you are content to witness a CTP version of the Battle of Ypres occuring on the Eastern Front.

I pray that upon my return sanity will have prevailed and that the peace that I long for will have prevailed.

St Jon, Friend to the World.

	14-05-2000 15:44									#115
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Silent Lord Sophix,

I re-iterate the situation to you. If diplomatic relations had not ceased between us, then perhaps this travesty would not have happened. We urge you to open up and allow a new dialogue between us.

Jon, please do not go down that particular route. "Noble Hextupal where is your soul? How can you sit back and watch the sufferings of others without lifting a finger to support them?" - Ahem, sound familiar to anybody else, or am I the only one that sees certain repetitions (albeit with different actors) here?

"Australia has poured all that she possesses into this conflict and has withstood grievous casualties in the cause of peaceful expansion. This war is your war and yet you are content to witness a CTP version of the Battle of Ypres occuring on the Eastern Front."

Noble St Jon, with all due respect, what a load of rubbish! Since when has Australia "poured all that she possesses into this conflict"? You have the largest army, and if you had poured it into the conflict to aid us, as you now rally Hextapul to do so, then we would no longer be at war, and peace would be bountiful.

Afterall, isn't peace what we all desire?!

	14-05-2000 17:27									#116
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Noble Demosthenes,

Once again we are wronged. Your cynicism knows no bounds and you even presume to doubt the word of the Patron Saint of Integrity.

In our abortive campaign against the Primitives Australia suffered the loss of many soldiers and the capture of Augustudum cost us many wounded.

No nation upon earth has endured such suffering as have we in the cause of Love and Peace!

As for the size of the Australian armed forces, they represent but sufficient force to guarentee our territorial integrity and have never waged war for selfish reasons.

St Jon.

	15-05-2000 09:21									#117
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St Jon,

Forgive me, but when you stated 'this conflict' I presumed you were referring to the only conflict that is presently being waged, and on that assumption you most certainly have not committed the entirity of your armed forces, neither have you suffered the most casualities.

The Welsh people could take offence at the indifference shown to their lost loved ones, in a proxy war, fought on your behalf. Hardly selfish, although personal gains have been collected en route.

Am I all too aware of our frank discussions on such matters, and so if I appear cynical, it is only due to my attempts at reading between the lines.
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	15-05-2000 02:41									#118
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	15-05-2000 06:18									#119
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I could say the same about you St Jon - where were you when Mayan soldiers were lying bleeding on the fields of honorable battle.

I do not recall seeing any messages regarding a war with the Native Americans - merely an attempt to strike against them when they were leaderless. Lo and behold, a leader rises up in time to guide the noble Native Americans before blood is drawn, and suddenly, the Australians do not have the stomach for war with them - even when Australian forces had the technological superiority.

Then the Australians decide that the time is ripe to strike against the Romans, when their military is weakened by the efforts of Lord Demos and myself. I do not fault you for this action, as you were called to this course. But, as I recall, Australian forces did not suffer casualites - as reported by yourself. So any reports of Australian wounded is met with a bit of cynisism on this side of the ocean.

What is the truth in these reports?

We do hope that your pilgrimage will bear fruit though, and wish the best to you in your endeavors while gone.

Hextapul
The Light of Justice to a Dark World

	16-05-2000 05:53									#120
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Greetings friends...

Fresh from the Roman front Pope Mobius I is here to ring the changes - even in defeat the BEAST is still driving a wedge between us!!! Well no more for Australia declares a holy crusade against Rome and will not rest until she is driven from our borders!

As we speak the Australian war machine is being mobilised in coming to the aid of the rest of the civilised World - but the road will not be an easy one for we have mountains to scale and hills to climb, the suffering populace at home will not brook failure so all must be planned meticulously and roads built...

Advance guards are already striking deep into the mountains to illuminate the way with the teachings of our Lord - but patience must be a watchword for we Australians have few roads and poor infrastructure since the strain of maintaining an effective deterrant have bled our coffers dry!

Pope Mobius I has pleasure in declaring the embassy with the Mayans open...