14-08-2002 22:22									#1
	PNG Avatars Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Are there any plans for the enabling of PNG avatars? My latest one takes up 7.67 kB as a GIF and 3.53 kB as a PNG.

	14-08-2002 22:51									#2
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Well, not everyone's browser supports PNG.

Damn this pandering to those idiots who still insist on using Mosaic.

	15-08-2002 01:27									#3
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Hehe, my Fireworks' PNG's are always at least a 100 times larger, with all the layers and things...

Seriously, I think it's a good idea

	15-08-2002 01:39									#4
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Hueij, your inside is out and your outside is in?

	15-08-2002 02:20									#5
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Damn this pandering to those idiots who still insist on using Mosaic.

Actually, Netscape 4.x is the one at fault.

Opera and Mozilla both support PNG fully; MSIE manages as long as you don't try to do too much with transparency.

	15-08-2002 05:26									#6
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Damn this pandering to those idiots who still insist on using Mosaic. Actually, Netscape 4.x is the one at fault. Opera and Mozilla both support PNG fully; MSIE manages as long as you don't try to do too much with transparency.

For, maybe the first time, I can say, "Damn MSIE"

	15-08-2002 05:35									#7
	Get a bigger avatar today!

i thought that PNGs were a bloated file type? at least they are for me when i convert jpegs to PNGs

	15-08-2002 05:41									#8
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Leo, when I first saw this thread I thought that you were after Papua New Guinea style avatars, much like the one modeled by former Australian PM Paul Keating here:

(this picture played a significant role in his defeat in the 1996 election )

	15-08-2002 07:04									#9
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

i thought that PNGs were a bloated file type? at least they are for me when i convert jpegs to PNGs

On the upside, they are lossless and patent-free.

	15-08-2002 07:13									#10
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by H Tower i thought that PNGs were a bloated file type? at least they are for me when i convert jpegs to PNGs

PNG is designed to replace gifs. Images such as pics will always be smaller as a jpeg because of the way their files are setup, meanwhile smaller images with less color will be smaller with a PNG/gif.

For more info: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/FAQ/standards.html

	15-08-2002 09:06									#11
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower i thought that PNGs were a bloated file type? at least they are for me when i convert jpegs to PNGs

These two are different beasts. JPEG is a "lossy" compression, meaning that you lose information when converting an image into JPEG. PNG was primarily developed to replace GIF, which uses a compression algorithm which patent is held by Unisys.

	15-08-2002 18:14									#12
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Since I am not even qualified for a custom avatar, there is no hope for me having a PNG avatar. That's 500 post limit is too high, it would take me another decade to get there.

	15-08-2002 19:22									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Moonsinger That's 500 post limit is too high, it would take me another decade to get there.

They used to have a time limit where if you were a member for a certain amount of time you would get a custom avatar. I never have used one, so I wouldn't know if that is still the case or when they got rid of it.

	15-08-2002 22:22									#14
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Nope, they got rid of the 1 year rule, so it's just 500 posts required now.

	15-08-2002 23:56									#15
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if you complain about the lack of the on year limit long enough you'll get your 500 posts

	16-08-2002 01:08									#16
	Inflate your Upload Space

Unless you're really blatant about it. Then it might take lots longer

Rich

	17-08-2002 00:02									#17
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Or you could have been lucky and gotten in when spam posts in the OTF gave post count. Then 500 posts is a cinch.

	17-08-2002 00:02									#18
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Edit: sorry, wrong information deleted.

	19-08-2002 14:30									#19
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You could even pull a Mao back then

	30-08-2002 01:41									#20
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*bump*

Just so you know, the latest vbulletin release (2.2.7) released this week adds support for PNG avatars...

	30-08-2002 08:35									#21
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay37 *bump* Just so you know, the latest vbulletin release (2.2.7) released this week adds support for PNG avatars...

I would guess that Markos won't upgrade for a while now. So I guess it all comes down to whether he could make the change with the code or whether it is hardwired in vBB and only can be done when upgrading happens.

	30-08-2002 11:19									#22
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If its available as part of the standard package, then its probably available as a hack somewhere. But I couldn't be bothered looking.