15-08-2002 20:01									#1
	Will RON be as fun as Civ3? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I have been thinking If RON will be good as Civ3? From what I've seen of the game, It appears to be a duplicate of Empire Earth. RON looks good and It has new features but I am just wondering If I should get It when comes out. What Is everyones else's opinion?

	16-08-2002 01:43									#2
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I'm sure I'll get it eventually, but I think Civ3 will still be better. From what I've heard RON is more fast paced with games that can be as short as an hour. It seems like there's less strategy involved in RON and generally less stuff to do. But I could be wrong...

	17-08-2002 18:59									#3
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This is my opnion only, but here it is anyways. Civ 3 is a good game not a great game like Civ2 was ( I know everyones been through it but listen out)

Since Brian Renylods made Civ2 and is making RoN, RoN should be better than Civ3.

He also made Alpha Centurai also a good game, (almost like Civ2)

I believe if he sticks with the Civ2 way of playing, I mean really fun and can play over and over again (Civ3 I don't have that feeling) he can't go wrong.


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	17-08-2002 22:37									#4
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If RON is even half as absorbing, mature, and well-thought out as SMAC/X was, I'm buying it.

I still think SMAC is one of the best games I have ever played. The story behind the game, and the work that went into writing it, is second to none.

	19-08-2002 07:19									#5
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I think RON will be a good game, if not better than Civ3. There seems to be a deliberate attempt to avoid busy work, like cleaning up pollution. Does anyone think managing pollution is fun? Or how about firing artillery? Actually, I think RON is what Civ3 would have been if Reynolds had stayed at Firaxis. Maybe, that's why he left because he couldn't implement his vision that is RON.

	19-08-2002 10:50									#6
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The more I see of RON, the more I believe this is going to be as good, and likely better, than civ3. It's looking like it will take the fun aspects from civ and rts's and blend them together nicely.

	20-08-2002 17:16									#7
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In trying to absorb the available information on RoN, I currently have the impression it will provide a gaming experience different from Civ and EE. BHG looks to be creating a quality game, and I expect to enjoy it. I won’t be surprised, however, if some TBSers and RTSers don’t like it for the reason RoN will be a different kind of experience.

In another context, I tried to address the “RoN vs. EE” issue on a page of my own.

	21-08-2002 05:18									#8
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I think that I will enjoy it more than Civ III. But that is only if the balance and the pace of the game works out, which is no guarantee.

	23-08-2002 23:55									#9
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I didn't like EE. It was too much clicking, I hope RoN will be much better. Compared to civ3 I think it will depend of personal opinion.

	24-08-2002 03:12									#10
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Hagbart mentioned "too much clicking" (specifically with regard to EE). For me, one of the greatest "draws" of Civ3 (and conversely, one of the greatest "deterrants" from such titles as EE/AoE/AoC/AoK) is the pace. I hate to admit it, but my old fingers can't keep up with the click-fest that those titles require in order to remain "in the game." By contrast, I can take my time with Civ3, cogitate, drink a latte (or two), et cetera.

I am very interested to see what a turn-based, just-one-more-turn guru like Brian will bring to the RTS arena.

	28-08-2002 00:11									#11
	Re: Will RON be as fun as Civ3? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Originally posted by wargamer.com http://www.wargamer.com/gencon02/rise_of_nations/
When we interviewed Big Huge Games founder Brian Reynolds about Rise of Nations at E3, he explained to us that the "C" word Civilization, on which he was a former producer) was "banned in our studio".

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	30-08-2002 22:51									#12
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I must admit that I am not into real-time games at all.

BUT:

quote: Originally posted by Yolky Since Brian Renylods made Civ2 and is making RoN, RoN should be better than Civ3. I believe if he sticks with the Civ2 way of playing, I mean really fun he can't go wrong.

That's why I might check this game out.
The name of Brian Reynolds on the box means a hell of lot more to me than the name of that other well-known game designer.

	31-08-2002 06:06									#13
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Hasdrubal,

You talking about Sid? What about games like Gettysburg! and SimGolf - his latest two? Both fantastic games. One is one of the best wargames of all time and the other incredibly addictive. Sid still has it in my opinion.

	31-08-2002 06:54									#14
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With the latest screens coming out, and the latest info, RoN has moved from my watch list to the buy list. The combat model is looking very promising. I don't know about more fun in general, but I think RoN will be more exhilarating than Civ3.