28-08-2002 03:50									#91
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a warrior, archer, or spearman will rule small maps and duels.

A horseman, or swordsman upgrade would be good on sightly larger maps.

A knight or cavalry upgrade would be good for large peaceful style games that usually dont have wars untill there are real terriory desputes (no land left)

	28-08-2002 07:39									#92
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I truly hope this happens. I have my friend currently planning everything. The only reason I'd be in tampa is to meet a bunch of friends since I haven't seen them in forever after I moved out to Indy. So if she can make it work that we all meet there, I'll take you on. And believe me, I'm quite good now, but I'll let my game do the talking.

	28-08-2002 08:28									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Kuja I'll let my game do the talking.

That's the only thing really worth listening to.

	03-09-2002 19:31									#94
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If everyone gets to choose civ Characteristics, Which ones would you choose and why? (specify map sizes if you think it makes a difference)

Rich
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	03-09-2002 19:44									#95
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If they stick with the civs as they stand I think Aztecs will rock. If they allow people to choose characteristics and UU religious, industrial and war chariot is still a feasible choice IMO. It's quite reasonable to perhaps switch militaristic for religious, especially for small 1 continent maps.

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	03-09-2002 20:04									#96
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I'm wondering if expansionist will have any popularity. Without any AI's to trade techs with, huts will play a much larger role, and getting to them quickly and getting more desirable goodies will be one heck of an advantage. (and finding your neighbors before they find you)

	03-09-2002 20:07									#97
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It will certainly be relatively more useful in MP than SP, not least because of the maps that are likely to get chosen in MP. Whether or not it will edge out a militaristic/industrious combo I don't know.........only time will tell.

	03-09-2002 20:13									#98
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Somehow, I think militaristic is going to be one that everyone takes in MP, unless you're playing on super huge maps.

	03-09-2002 22:25									#99
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Mongols and Vikings are gonna look pretty good I think.

	03-09-2002 22:41									#100
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I hope they don't screw up and limit it to what is there now, in terms of civ choices. The last thing we need is for people to fight over which civ they get, and whine about it. (He only beat me because he had the civ I wanted) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Everyone should get to choose whatever characteristics and UU (if in) that they want.

RAH

	03-09-2002 22:48									#101
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quote: Originally posted by rah I hope they don't screw up and limit it to what is there now, in terms of civ choices. The last thing we need is for people to fight over which civ they get, and whine about it. (He only beat me because he had the civ I wanted) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Everyone should get to choose whatever characteristics and UU (if in) that they want. RAH

that would mean a typical game could be like: 3xaztecs, 5xegyptians

but it opens a new gaming possibilty:
"who plays XXXX the best".

or hardcore multiplayers could play all 24 civs and find out who's the ULTIMATE MP-king

	03-09-2002 22:50									#102
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quote: Originally posted by rah (He only beat me because he had the civ I wanted) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa RAH

Have anyone in particular in mind Rah?

	03-09-2002 23:05									#103
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf that would mean a typical game could be like: 3xaztecs, 5xegyptians

Watching how stratagies have evolved over the last few years in MP, I'd be willing to bet that after a few months, that you would be shocked at what people would selecting and WHY.

But I still want unlimited choice,
whatever name,
whatever traits,
whatever UU.



Rich

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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf that would mean a typical game could be like: 3xaztecs, 5xegyptians but it opens a new gaming possibilty: "who plays XXXX the best". or hardcore multiplayers could play all 24 civs and find out who's the ULTIMATE MP-king

I wouldn't be suprised to see a lot of people losing to somebody who knows how to work their particular Civ really well. Whether Aztec, Egyptian or whatever.

	05-09-2002 01:35									#105
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But consider, with the longer tech development times, Hut Luck will have a greater impact on your game. And everyone has already whined about the luck involved in your starting terrain. So I see some people losing where it has very little to do with how well they played the specific civ. I'm a little torn on this one, because as much as I like FAIR starts, I think the random element is critical to keeping the games different and thereby add to replay value, but until we actually start playing mp, it will be difficult to judged the impact.

RAH

	05-09-2002 19:20									#106
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Expansionist/miltarist with a fast UU. Can everyone say mongols.

	05-09-2002 19:59									#107
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Yes, Spencer, I'm expecting to try expan/mil first. But I still hope it won't be limited to one civ and we'll be able to choose that, and the UU, so there are no arguments.

	05-09-2002 20:12									#108
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It'll be mongol 1 vs mongol 2 vs mongol 3....

I still say that all random is the real test You have to able to play as any civ not just your favorite.

	05-09-2002 20:22									#109
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A true test maybe, but In MP it can't really be random. Too much whining.

And I don't want a UU or characteristic hardcoded to a CIV. I want complete choice. So no whining and maximum versatility.

Rich

	05-09-2002 20:57									#110
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I just have visions of AoE II MP in my head with everyone picking the Franks (I think it was) and using buildings as weapons in clickfests of epic proportions.

	05-09-2002 21:12									#111
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That's why I want the flexibility. We've seen CIVII stratagies evolve over the years. Somebody will always try something different/clever. The more flexibility the more chance that that will happen.

RAH

	05-09-2002 23:17									#112
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I agree, its always better to have the ability to choose how you want to play the game after all.....lethal bombardment on/off etc . But I doubt that we'll see options for which civ and which UU, at least not with the first MP version.

	06-09-2002 03:48									#113
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quote: Originally posted by rah A true test maybe, but In MP it can't really be random. Too much whining. And I don't want a UU or characteristic hardcoded to a CIV. I want complete choice. So no whining and maximum versatility. Rich

They aren't hardcoded now. When I first got into the game heavily, learning how to play, I set my civ with all the Characteristics they have.

I was Religious, Industrious, Militaristic, Expansionist, Commercial, and Scientific.

Of course this got boring quickly.

	06-09-2002 17:07									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski I was Religious, Industrious, Militaristic, Expansionist, Commercial, and Scientific. Of course this got boring quickly.

Yep, that what I'd select for my first MP game.

Did you give yourself multiple UUs?

	07-09-2002 06:02									#115
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yep, that what I'd select for my first MP game. Did you give yourself multiple UUs?

No way.....that would be cheating.





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