17-08-2002 10:35									#1
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Lately I noticed a few things:

1) My "treasure trail" (which has been present since I was ~17) has gotten significantly thicker

2) I have significant amounts of hair on my upper arms (tricep region). As of yet it is only blonde hair, but I'm afraid it will start the progression to dirty blonde/brown which the rest of my hair has.

3) I now not only have hair between the first and second knuckles (moving up from my wrist) on each finger, but also between 2nd and 3rd knuckles. If I start to grow hair on the last segment (where fingernail is located) then I don't know what I'm going to do.

On a completely unrelated note, did you realise that the human arm+hand has 23(!) degrees of freedom (including shoulder motions)?

	17-08-2002 10:37									#2
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bored recently?

I noticed gettign hairier for a while, but not recently

still no hair on the back

JOn Miller

	17-08-2002 10:39									#3
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I have had some hair on my legs but not on my upper body....

	17-08-2002 10:40									#4
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i have a lot of leg hair...other than that I just have a small patch of short chest hair, and the treasure trail

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller bored recently? I noticed gettign hairier for a while, but not recently still no hair on the back JOn Miller

Me neither. And not very much on chest either.

quote: have had some hair on my legs but not on my upper body....

My legs are like a forest. Scottish blood, I think. Luckily it's blonde (the lightest hair on my body, actually).

	17-08-2002 10:42									#6
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My beard comes in thicker now than it did five years ago...

I haven't really been paying attention to the rest, since I've been too preoccupied by the encroachment of grey hair.

Also, is that counting each finger joint as a separate degree of freedom, or just each finger?

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quote: My legs are like a forest.

Mine as well...little kids comment on it "wow your legs are hairy" "gee you have hairy legs" etc.

	17-08-2002 10:44									#8
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger I haven't really been paying attention to the rest, since I've been too preoccupied by the encroachment of grey hair.

i thought you were only early 20s, loin?

	17-08-2002 10:46									#9
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger My beard comes in thicker now than it did five years ago... I haven't really been paying attention to the rest, since I've been too preoccupied by the encroachment of grey hair. Also, is that counting each finger joint as a separate degree of freedom, or just each finger?

Each joint, since you have separate control of each of them. The degrees I found are (moving down from shoulder:

3 at shoulder
1 at elbow
1 in forearm (it's possible to rotate the forearm without rotating upper arm)
2 at wrist
3 in each finger (including thumb)

Wait...that makes 22. Oops.

EDIT: actually, that should be 4 for each finger. At the first joint there's 2 degrees of freedom.

So the final tally is 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 5*4 = 27!

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2 at wrist? it's not possible to rotate just your wrist/hand

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quote: Originally posted by orange i thought you were only early 20s, loin?

Yup, started going grey at the ripe old age of 17. My mom's genes must've cursed me, since she had to start coloring her hair at 24.

quote: Originally posted by Frogger 3 in each finger (including thumb)

What does that turn into for somebody who's double jointed? Or does it make a difference?

	17-08-2002 10:51									#12
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2 at wrist. You can waggle the wrist toward the forearm and from side to side.

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what the hell's a treasure trail?

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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer what the hell's a treasure trail?

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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Yup, started going grey at the ripe old age of 17. My mom's genes must've cursed me, since she had to start coloring her hair at 24. What does that turn into for somebody who's double jointed? Or does it make a difference?

No difference. I think the double jointedness just reduces the restrictions on the already-available degrees of freedom (increases range of motion).

	17-08-2002 10:53									#16
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Please note my edit. The revised tally is 27

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Speer: It's a strip of hair (or a "trail") with a treasure at the end of it. (Or perhaps a curse, if you're Irish.)

	17-08-2002 10:56									#18
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I started going bald at 18.
I think it decided to grow on my chin instead.

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Ugh. I got the better deal.

	17-08-2002 10:58									#20
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A formal definition of degrees of freedom is the minimum number of coordinates necessary to fully describe the position of a collection of particles. If there were no restrictions (like the fact that your wrist is a fixed distance from you elbow) then the number of degrees of freedom of your arm would equal 3*(the number of particles in your arm)

	17-08-2002 10:59									#21
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Ah, gotcha, so being double jointed wouldn't change the coordinate system, it would just extend the range of movement in the coordinate system.

I haven't had mechanics in four years, and I don't miss it one bit.

	17-08-2002 12:12									#22
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My neice can wrap her pinkie around her ring finger, having side to side flexibility in all three pinkie joints.

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Im on the verge of my 18th birthday, and I too seem to only be getting hairier. My legs are quite hairy, my treasure trail (or happy trail, as they call them here) is thin but getting noticably thicker, and I have chest hair coming in. My arms are getting hairy too, though on the forearm I dont mind much but it is crawling up to my upper arm. I dont mind it much, but do women find body hair unsightly? Or do they not really care? It doesnt seem to be a hinderance so far, but I dunno for sure.

Kman

EDIT: oh yeah, i forgot about the stuff coming in on the top of my foot. Its pretty thin, but my friends have jokingly refered to me as a hobbit .

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I can't decide if this thread is turning me on or making me ill...

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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I can't decide if this thread is turning me on or making me ill...

err... I think it should be quite clear whetehr its doing one or the other... . Otherwise, you may be ill.

Why would it turn you on though????

	17-08-2002 12:22									#26
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I...am too tired to explain. Anyone else? Thanks.

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"Treasure trail" = "Pubic Ladder"

We are the product of millions of years of evolution. Our development must surely have some degree of meaning.

Therefore there must be a good reason for the acquisition of dense., luxurious and greying nasal hair.

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quote: Originally posted by Ron Jeremy "Treasure trail" = "Pubic Ladder" We are the product of millions of years of evolution. Our development must surely have some degree of meaning. Therefore there must be a good reason for the acquisition of dense., luxurious and greying nasal hair.

It helps to filter out dust and harmful fumes when inhaling

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I am rather hairy.

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