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SnowFire is offline SnowFire
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Imperial Dip 50: Fall 1872 Moves Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

My apologies about the ridiculous lateness. Thankfully just as I'm burning out and college is about to start, MDR will be coming back. But not yet. I would say get those builds in, except for the fact that I haven't entirely confirmed them yet. Here are some random doodlings of mine that might give you an idea of the rough builds you're getting- hopefuly I'll double check it after I get back from a short little vacation on Monday.

Hol: -Mad, -Uru, -Prt, -Ivc, -Bor, -Srw, -IJA
Eng: -Que, -Gre, +Bor, +Srw
Mex: +Mad, +Uru, +Que, +Prt, +Rho
Tur: -Rho, +Ivc
CSA: +Gre, +IJA

You know, when I was a player more often, I really hated those lazy GMs who couldn't provide builds & a map at the time of releasing the moves. But these world maps, ugh... I can play back entire games in my head on the standard map, but keeping track of just SC movement...

Press

"Mexico's forces are a bit too close for comfort. Perhaps a good whip from their Confederate owners would put them back into place"

"China's lapdog Britain should ditch their doomed European units and concentrate on defending the isles from the CSA"

TO CSA, Look at those CSA ragships run, hence the term running "away" rebels.

TO England: Hang in there China will help to kick those CSA migrants out of our turf.

Rally behind the Virginians! There stands Gen. Ruff like a stone wall.

"I hate the chinks. Every last one of them." (Stolen from a certain
honorable U.S. Senator)

Good-bye Dutchman. Your little fleets are now being smashed into little
bitty pieces.

The British are crying! The British are crying!

Recent polls in Mexico asked, "What is the difference between Turkish men and
women?" Most common answer, "The women fight better and have bigger
mustaches."


I see London, I see France.... gads, man! France looks a damn sight better
than London. It's going to take a hundred years or more to explain to these
British fools how they need to speak Amercian. The French complied within
hours. Why just look at Pierre now. "Y'all pass that Maisonasie, ya hear!,
Ahhh have to git dem burgers ready, allight?"

+

China: Come out in the deep water with that junk navy, and you'll see what
20" is all about. Your British whores tell us that 2" is more like it, but
they'll "love you long time" anyway.

+

El President Gerwaldo is the best. In Chicago "They think he's a righteous
dude!"

+

The Sultan of Orange is right up there with the Sultans of Swing. It is
President JDR VIII's extreme pleasure to present to the Sultan this fine
ivory coach to wheel His Eminence around Constantinople, Cairo, and Baghdad
at his liesure.

Fall 1872

China (Defiant)
A-PRM S ENGLISH A-GRG
A-ORN S A-GRG
A-OMS S A-GRG
A-KRA S A-ORN
A-BKH S A-ORN
A-KSH S A-BKH
A-TIB S A-KSH
A-BRM H
A-YAK - IRK
A-KAM - YAK
F-KURIL - KAM
F-SAP - KURIL (*bounce*) 2:2
F-EDO S F-SAP - KURIL
F-IZU - CRL
F-PHILIPPINE S F-IZU - CRL
F-KG - IZU
F-SO.JAPAN S F-KG - IZU
F-FM S F-PHILIPPINE
F-LUZON S F-PHILIPPINE (*cut, dislodged, annihilated*)
F-CAN - S.CHINA
F-HK - E.CHINA
A-BRM H
A-YUT H
A-TNK H
A-ANN H
A-SEO H

Mexico (Gerwald)
1. F Westerlies s CSA F Bering Sea - Kuril
2. F Coral s F QUE
3. F NZE s F Drake - A. Pacific
4. F Tasman s F Drake - A. Pacific
5. F QUE hold
6. F SAU - PRT
7. F Drake - A. Pacific
8. F MAD s F A Indian - W. Indian
9. F A Indian - W. Indian
10. F A. Atlantic - A. Indian
11. F Barrier s F SAU - PRT
12. A COH - LPA
13. A LPA - QTO
14. A GOV - OLI
15. F M. Atlantic convoy A REC - OKN
16. A PRA - REC
17. A REC - OKN
18. F URU holds
19. F SUNDA - LUZON
20. A OKN - AGL
21. A CNG - RHO
22. F B. Current - A. Atlantic
23. F OLI - CoArgentina
24. F SW Pacific s F Drake - A. Pacific
25. F SGR s F B. Current - A. Atlantic

CSA (Ruffhaus)
A Atlanta - Bahamas
A Bahamas - Tir
F Sargasso Sea convoys A Bahamas - Tir
F Canary Islands convoys A Bahamas - Tir
A Sierra Leone supports A Bahamas - Tir
A Quebec - Ontario
F Nova Scotia - Hudson Bay
F Hudson Bay - Greenland
F Greenland - Barents Sea
F Cheasapeake - North Atlantic Ocean
F Eastern Seaboard supports F Cheasapeake - North Atlantic Ocean
F North Atlantic Ocean - Dublin
F Edinburg Supports F North Atlantic Ocean - Dublin (*cut*)
F London supports F Edinburgh - hold
A Nantes - Bordeaux
A Paris supports A Nantes - Bordeaux
A Toledo supports A Nantes - Bordeaux
F Bay of Biscay - Nantes
F Strait of Gibraltar - Bay of Biscay
F Gibralter - Strait of Gibraltar
A Azores Islands - hold
F Northeast Trades - hold
A MDO supports Turkish A Grain Coast - Ivory Coast
F Gulf of Guinea convoys Mexican A Recife - OKN
F Cameroon supports Mexican A Recife - OKN
A Washington State - hold
A Alaska - hold
F West Coast - California Current
F Bering Sea - Kuril Trench
F Western Pacific Ocean - Izu Trench
F North Pacific Ocean - Hawaii
F Hawaii - Equatorial Countercurrent
F Equatorial Countercurrent - Bismark Sea
F IJA supports F Equatorial Countercurrent - Bismark Sea
F Caroline Islands - Phillipine Sea (*bounce, dislodged, annihilated*)
F Bismark Sea - Luzon
F Mindanao supports F Bismark Sea - Luzon

England (the_orange1)
F-Java > Srw
F-Bor S F-Java > Srw
A-Bnk > Mls
F-Oki S Chinese F-Philippine H
A-Mds H
F-Persian S A-Oma > Hda (*cut*)
A-Oma > Hda (*bounce*)
F-H. Africa > Arabian
F-Sey H
A-Krc S A-Kas
A-Kas S A-Krc
A-Raj S A-Krc
A-Grg S Chinese A-Prm H (*cut*)
A-Stp S A-Liv
A-Liv S A-Stp (*cut*)
F-G.Bot S A-Liv
F-Den S F-Hlg > North
F-Hlg > North (*bounce*)
F-North > Edi
F-Norweigan S F-North > Edi (*bounce*) 2:2
F-Dub S F-North > Edi (*cut*)

Austria (His Divine Shadow)
A Vlc sup Mrs
A Mrs sup Vlc
A Metz sup Hol
A Hol sup Metz
A Ruh sup Kie
A Kie sup Ber
A Pie sup Mrs
A Ber sup Kie
A Sil sup Ber
A Prs to Liv (*bounce*)
A Vie sup Glc
A Bud sup Glc
A Glc sup Wrs
A Wrs sup Mos
A Mos sup Turkish A Ang to Grg
F W Med sup Vlc
F Lyon sup Vlc
F Crs sup W Med
F Tyr sup W Med
F Sic sup Tyr
F Adr sup Sic
F Bos to Crt

Turkey (orange)
F Red S F Ade - HoAfrica
F Som S F Ade - HoAfrica
F Ade - HoAfrica
A Ban S A Afg
A Teh S A Afg
A Afg S A Khv
A Khv S A Afg
F Bag - Persian
A Nej S A Hdr
A Hdr S A Nej (*cut*)
F Ionian S F Tun
F Tun S F Ionian
F Alg S F Mrc
F Mrc S Confederate F Gb (*invalid*)
A Gcs - Ivc
A Ctn - Bot (*bounce*)
A Trn - Bot (*bounce*)
F Ken - M. Channel (*bounce*)
F M. Channel - W. Indian (*bounce*) 1:2
A Sof S A Rmn
F Black C A Ang - Grg
A Sev S A Ang - Grg
A Bku S A Ang - Grg
A Ang - Grg (*bounce*) 4:4
F Con S A Sof
A Rmn S A Sev

Holland (George of Orange)
F IvC H (*dislodged, retreats to: Dmk*)
F S.Atlantic H
A Dml H
F Goodhope H
F Mld H
F E.Indian H
F GoManaar H
F SE.Trades H
F Celebes H
F Timor H
F A.Pacific H (*dislodged, annihilated*)
F NGu H
A Prt H (*disloged, retreats to: Ntr*)

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Map: www.angelfire.com/rebellion/orange2/F1872.gif

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Thanks orange for the map. I'm caught up now, and can continue with providing the eventual winter map. Also I didn't see any adjudication errors other than a few moves not noted as bouncing, but it's all pretty clear in the end.

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no problem. Yeah a few of your moves weren't listed as bouncing, but they were in China's part so I just went with that.

As usual, check for errors everyone.

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Thought I might bring up a slight map error. F West Coast drifted into GoCalifornia rather than California Current

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is there such thing as California Current?

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oh, i'm sorry, you're right...C.Current...duh orange

Give me one sec...

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Oh, Mr Mapmaker, Could you paint Borneo a nice dark blue colour please...

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Hey GM, save yourself the trouble and just paint it orange.

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California Current, dude! The waves here are, like, totally b!tchin' man! Gulf waves are for tourists.

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Snowfire, here's my take on the Winter 1872 Adjustments needed after updating my map on PSP and counting centers/units:

CSA - 39 supply centers/36 units: +3 BUILDS
Mexico - 31 supply centers/25 units: + 6 BUILDS
China - 26 supply centers/24 units: + 2 BUILDS
Turkey - 26 supply centers/26 units: + 0 BUILDS
Austria/Hungary - 22 supply centers/22 units: + 0 BUILDS
England - 22 supply centers/21 units: + 1 BUILD
Holland - 5 supply centers/12 units: -7 DISBANDS

Please check for accuracy.

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Sounds good to me. I'll try and count 'em to back it up, but for now, we can use that.

Builds are due... Wednesday! Already got some though, which is good.

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