20-08-2002 21:37									#1
	War Academy: What to do after orleans and Paris Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Right now we are on the verge of war with france. Soon we will attack paris and orleans. Hopefully they will fall, however what to do next is still up in the air. I would like any ideas be they general or specific. I realize that much will depend on loses of the intial attack. My general idea( and that of the smc as well) was to have everything from a paris-marselles line eastward. He as I do, knows this is an unlikely and an optitmistic view. Personally I think we can attack from orleans toward rheimes and leave the southern cities for a peace deal. If rheimes falls easily and the other assalts were very lucky perhaps we move toward marselles. However much luck would be required and I think this is unlikely.
Apologies to Sir Ralph for starting this thread under a "war academy" heading even though I am not formaly a member. However due to my application and the nature of this thread I thought it would be ok.
Aggie

	20-08-2002 22:34									#2
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quote: Posted by Aggie in "The Apolytonian War Academy" I too would like to join this noble and distinguished institution. Also I guess I better join since I am a deputy smc. Aggie

You are a member. I added you to the list the same day you posted this. On topic I will reply later. Don't have much time now, am going out for a beer .

	22-08-2002 20:23									#3
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Much will depend on the outcomes of other wars - we must try to keep the balance on our side of the continent.

	22-08-2002 23:32									#4
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Aggie- our looses at Paris should be none, 1 at worst. At Orleans it might be bloodier, but lets say no more then 2 lost archers (same as whole American campaign). I think that leaving a couple of swordmen behind in paris, our troops should move north, to take Rheims, and also cut the iron supply (though not attack the city, since its on a hill). The Archers left could move on Rouen to complete the southern conquest, or try to take Marseilles even. We could probably pull it of. The French Army is very weak and we can't give them even a minute to try to recover or enlarge. We must be quick and brutal.

I don't see the French as any more of an obstacle than Abe was.

	22-08-2002 23:41									#5
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We should get our UU (War Chariot) to trigger a GA during (last battle) the french wars.

I would like to see something between MASSIVE infrastructure building (I know it is a dirty word here) and MASSIVE military build-up.
NO WARS FOR 40 TURNS!!

We need temples, librarys and marketplaces to solidify our borders, propel our research and keep us in the Lytons. I would like to dedicate half the empire to infrastructure and half for unit building (at any given time).

We need some more workers to build more roads and connect our empire up and improve land.

We need kights and pikemen in the dozens.

Also, depending on the political (diplomatic) environment, we need either Monarchy or Republic. I suggest Monarchy for the MPs and the unit support.


Mss

	22-08-2002 23:42									#6
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GePap,

I do not share your optimism in Paris unless they pop rush an offensive unit. With size six, their defensive bonus is a bit over 3 (50% for size 6, 10% for grass). I would expect 2-3 lost swords on that attack, personally.

	23-08-2002 02:57									#7
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Unorth..

The 50% bonus applies to cities 7-12. Paris is just a town at size 6. They only get a 10% bonus for the grasslands.

	23-08-2002 03:06									#8
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I think enemy capitals get the +50% bonus at size 1 (they're displayed as cities rather than towns, and their walls are broken in the aerial view).
Sure, it's only a matter of display, but it can be significant.

	23-08-2002 03:47									#9
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I am expecting as I said elsewhere 2-3 swords lost at Paris. I do agree with you elsewhere gepap except I believe in preparing for the worse so we do have a plan.
I would be all for more horseman but I don't want a chariot in battle yet, because it will trigger a golden age and we NEED library, unviersity,FP in place to really take advantage of it. Right now I am afraid it will help us not.
Aggie

	23-08-2002 03:54									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I think enemy capitals get the +50% bonus at size 1 (they're displayed as cities rather than towns, and their walls are broken in the aerial view). Sure, it's only a matter of display, but it can be significant.

to my knowledge this is true.