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Is pornography in general demeaning to women? (Time out:0 days after 21-08-2002, 06:55)
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Dr Zoidberg is offline Dr Zoidberg

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The public decency laws are ****ing strict over there Iīve heard... Is it true that some states donīt even allow toddlers running naked at the beach?

And is it more strict in the bible belt than say California? (Which I assume it is )

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Florida probably has the most lenient laws folllowed by California.

And I have never seen a child running around naked. The parent would probably be charged with child pornography. Serious.

Just yesterday a mother was arrested for letting her kids get sunburned. Amazing. Although the b!!!h was an ignorant slut. But still...

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But the kids got sunburns of second degree. It means it's not just something going away after a couple of days, stuff like that leaves scars in young kids.


here's the link:


http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/21/su...s.ap/index.html

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Florida probably has the most lenient laws folllowed by California.

And I have never seen a child running around naked. The parent would probably be charged with child pornography. Serious.


How...puritan... This is ****ing stupid, really

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Just yesterday a mother was arrested for letting her kids get sunburned. Amazing. Although the b!!!h was an ignorant slut. But still...


Thatīs a different question altogether, she hurt her kids by neglect. Iīd say fine her and bring in the social services to teach her the proper ways of parenthood.

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If I was an attractive woman I would be making lots of money letting men look at my body.

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yes. Porn is dirty dirty dirty.

*goes and washes his hands*

Seriously, what's wrong with porn?

Thucydides is offline Thucydides
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half of what people do for money is degrading. If it wasn't for the need for money, nobody would take degrading jobs in the first place. So if pornography is wrong, then so is our monetary society in general (I tend to go with the latter anyway, but there are alot worse jobs I can think of then doing pornos).

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How can a woman getting reamed in the poop shoot and then covered in semen NOT be considered degrading?


Male homosexuals don't seem to have a problem with this.

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half of what people do for money is degrading. If it wasn't for the need for money, nobody would take degrading jobs in the first place. So if pornography is wrong, then so is our monetary society in general (I tend to go with the latter anyway, but there are alot worse jobs I can think of then doing pornos).


Well this is an argument which the Porn industry puts to the public all the time. If you see being photographed having sex with strangers so people can masturbate as the same as an office job or being a nurse or a policeman I imagine that argument would make sense to you. It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Easy.

Some women find it degrading, others don't.

Some MEN find it degrading too, others don't.

Whatcha gonna do about it?

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It's the intent of porn.

Have you found any porn that depicts women as whole persons instead of some sexual objects to be had by men?

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Have you found any porn that depicts women as whole persons instead of some sexual objects to be had by men?


Nope, but I even view nuns as sex objects to be had.

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I agree that women in porn have agreed to do it for money and they are no more demeaned then any of the rest of use when we go to work each day.

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I agree that women in porn have agreed to do it for money and they are no more demeaned then any of the rest of use when we go to work each day.


I suspect this attitude has helped porn makers to recruit a lot of young people into their sleazy "industry". Sad really.

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It's the intent of porn.

Have you found any porn that depicts women as whole persons instead of some sexual objects to be had by men?


Well I thought that's what they are!

Anyway, in our day and age when most women that work in that industry do not have to hide as they did a mere 15 or 20 years ago it is a different matter. The girls enjoy it as much as the boys and as for the viewers there is also certainly more women watching porns than before.

We have to differentiate though between movies there are so many different types.

For example the japanese movies I've seen seem to really degrade women beyond all doubt.

Now if you travel east in California we have companies like Vivid, which has risen to be a respectable company with good looking girls and everything is very "professional". The girls in their movies seem to enjoy it and they certainly make good money and by own choice. In Europe we have companies like Private, which has risen to a very repectable level as a company and similar to Vivid works with girls that earn good money, travel to a lot of places and they certainly do it by choice, difference btwn them is that Private is bit more European when it comes to their actual movies. Now these are two examples from two very innovative and industry leading companies for mainstream porn and I cannot see what can be wrong with the girls that play in similar movies. Actually there is some glamour and stardom in the last decade or so that they certainly seem to enjoy.

At last there are some productions that serve the niche markets of extreme sex or even perversions like real pain, older >70 women, feces, etc. I can't see how people that play in such movies don't feel degraded but then they surely do it by choice!

Of course everything is relative degrading to me may not be degrading to the next one and surely there are a lot of conservative people out there that would like porn movies to be banned. There is a very simple solution to all this you do not have to watch if you don't like it but if you like it you can and surely you wont find it degrading!

As for the question at hand I don't think pornogarphy is wrong. I am especially sick of a lot of people in America who are so much against it and then turn around and watch a movie where somebody bloody blows other people to hell. I certainly would have my kids rather watch sex and love than violence and killing!

So long....

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I'm simply amazed at the poll result. Some of you people are really in denial.

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denial of what?

Yeah I'm familiar with Vivid. They are one of the good companies. Most porn distributors/producers should go by their lead.

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Yeah, Vivid makes some pretty nice movies. But who watches them? I mean if youīre out to spank your monkey you donīt care (I know I donīt ) if itīs shaky hand camera as long as it gets you off...

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I agree that women in porn have agreed to do it for money and they are no more demeaned then any of the rest of use when we go to work each day.


It's whats known as being a whore. I guess to a point we are all whores to our job, but I think being a sperm receptacle to ugly strangers is a bit more degrading than say, oh being a receptionist.....but thats just me

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Have you found any porn that depicts women as whole persons instead of some sexual objects to be had by men?


Have you found any porn that doesn't portray men as anything but a huge cak? 75% of most scenes don't show anything but the genitals, way too close up. Both sexes are objectified.

 
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