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Part of it was the year 2000. Lots and lots of people had in their tiny little minds that the world was going to end in the year 2000. Now many of them are trying to convince themselves that the year 2000 was the start of the end of the world. It will take a while for Milenium Brain Fever to go away.
We even had one of those idiots for Secretary of the Interior during the Reagan Administration.
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It's because of the Great Revival that swept the country in the early 19th Century. |
I think part of that was a reaction to Darwin and the Scopes Monkey trial. People were being disturbed by having to think. Rather than change their minds they got even more hidebound.
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More to the point; American's came here, for the most part, for religious freedom. |
I don't think so. Some of the early immigrants did that. Some came here not for religious freedom but to avoid it. The Puritans came here to have religious law not to have freedom of religion.
Look at the numbers for differents groups and why they came.
Eleven percent of Americans ancestors came here because they were kiddnapped and shoved in hellholes in the belly of slave ships.
Most of the Irish came here because they were starving in Ireland.
The Italians came here for a economic opportunity as they sure weren't having any trouble being Catholics in Italy.
Poles did it for the same reasons plus because they were tired of the rest of Europe holding their wars in Poland.
Germans. Same thing plus I know that some came to avoid the universal draft.
I think if you take a close look you will find that most people came here for economic reasons including many of the early immigrants.
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Ethelred
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So why didn't the same happen in Europe? |
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More Catholics for one thing. At least in the US Catholics aren't into Revelations.
Poor education in the South where Fundamentalism is very strong.
Europe allready had its Apocolypse and noticed that the world is still there. Both in 1000 AD and in the horror that was World War II.
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Delft, The Netherlands
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Part of it was the year 2000. Lots and lots of people had in their tiny little minds that the world was going to end in the year 2000. |
yeah, sure 
I bet lots did, but not the christians, since the bible literary and clearly says that we will not know when the end of times will come, and since it seems that much americans take the bible literarly, your theories are in conflict.
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We even had one of those idiots |
wow, your first reply is already filled with the "I know everything and everyone who disagrees is an idiot and I'm omniscient and ooooh all bow for me since I'm really amazing with all my knowledge of the truth" thing you usually drop in after about 20 replies......why so fast?
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People were being disturbed by having to think. |
And there comes the always easy to use "We are the only ones who thinks" kind of arguments. That's right, we hate thinking. In fact I never think. Oh yeah, that's right, I hate thinking in fact. Fortunately there are people like you, oh holy ehtelred, who want to think for us! Thanks again!
thanks.
thanks.
someobody tell me to stop saying thanks, I can't think about stopping since I can't think! That's because I hate it.
thanks again ethelred.
*gasp*
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Ethelred
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I wish.
It would be so nice if Pat Robertson had been a computer geek instead of a Televangelist. Then he wouldn't have run for President anyway.
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by CyberShy
yeah, sure
I bet lots did, but not the christians, |
Only the Christians did that stuff. No one else had any reason to think there is something special about the birth of Jesus.
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since the bible literary and clearly says that we will not know when the end of times will come, and since it seems that much americans take the bible literarly, your theories are in conflict. |
The Bible doesn't say that. It says no one will know the hour or the day. Fundamentalists take that pretty literly and figure the YEAR is not covered by it. They aren't sure of the exact of the birth of Jesus either so they have all the wiggle room they want to avoid that anyway.
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wow, your first reply is already filled with the "I know everything and everyone who disagrees is an idiot and I'm omniscient and ooooh all bow for me since I'm really amazing with all my knowledge of the truth" thing you usually drop in after about 20 replies......why so fast? |
Since you are claiming you don't believe that end should have come in the Year 2000 then you may also think the Secretary of the Interior Watts was a bloody idiot when he said we should use up all our resources because the end is comeing Real Soon Now. Thats an idiot. He deserves to be called an idiot and anyone that agreed with him had to have addeled brains.
The world is still here. He was wrong. He was an idiot. Still is as far as can tell.
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And there comes the always easy to use "We are the only ones who thinks" kind of arguments. That's right, we hate thinking. In fact I never think. Oh yeah, that's right, I hate thinking in fact. Fortunately there are people like you, oh holy ehtelred, who want to think for us! Thanks again! |
You showed no sign of thinking on at least this post anyway. Watt deserved to be called an idiot.
As I said the world is still here. He said it wouldn't be.
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someobody tell me to stop saying thanks, I can't think about stopping since I can't think! That's because I hate it. |
That was your usual well thought out rejoinder. Nothing but hot air. Not one word that showed any error on my part. Just complaining that I have an opinion that you don't like.
I didn't even mention you. Unless of course you assumed that 'idiot' referred specificly to you even though it clearly referred to Reagan's Secretary of the Interior and other Milenial Morons like him. Remember, if they weren't idiots the world would have ended and you wouldn't be reading this.
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thanks again ethelred.
*gasp* |
Your welcome. I wasn't refering to you but if you want to take it personally that doesn't say much in your favor.
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Dry
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My 2 cents explanation:
Religion, god and beliefs has always grown on fears and hopes of people. Religion is always most successful in times of trouble.
In countries with less developped social cares, people have to rely on 'the good divinity' that will protect them from whatever misfortune ("Please Father, protect us from ...").
I think it is no surprise that most churches hate it when the social system is secular hands. In Europe the catholic church has fought socialism with extreme violence (Ever heard of the spanish civil war, sponsored by the CatChu. Many catholic extremists join the nazis in their anti-bolchevic campaign). This means that the good people won't be in state of believing that charity comes from God only.
I think that because of their history, the USA are very sensible on religious rights. Unfortunately, the religious rights have turned into 'churchious' rights. The churches in the USA still play a very high role in social cares. They dispense their goodness 'in the name of God'... and those who benefit from those goodnesses, really, honestly believe that: "God cares for them".
I think the Hamas for the Pals play the same role, caring for the people "in the name of God"... and in return the thankfull people are ready to sacrifice their life for this caring God.
I don't say this is THE explanation, but it could be one.
The question is: what about Canada? More like Europe or more like US?
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