22-08-2002 09:43									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Lung *Snigger, snigger* Sorry, but all American opinions on beer are null and void owing to their reputation for having the world's worst beers.

You've never had Asian beer then. African beer is also pretty undrinkable. Frankly, we make more quality beer than Australia makes of all kinds of beer. We make more lousy beer, it's true, but we have a fantastic microbrew scene. And frankly, your 25 million people just can't compete with 280 million of us.

	22-08-2002 11:02									#32
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I've heard Sapporo is pretty good.

That, and isn't the 2nd or third largest brewer in the world based out of South Africa?

	22-08-2002 11:04									#33
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Miller beer was bought by some S. Africa company

	22-08-2002 11:06									#34
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You've never had Asian beer then. African beer is also pretty undrinkable. Frankly, we make more quality beer than Australia makes of all kinds of beer. We make more lousy beer, it's true, but we have a fantastic microbrew scene. And frankly, your 25 million people just can't compete with 280 million of us.

We could argue all day about the respective virtues of our micro-breweries, but when it comes to beer drinking, Aussies beat Yanks hands down! Actually, for i moment i vaguely remembered an American outdrinking me once, but i realised that he was actually Canadian I can't say the same for other Americans i have met

	22-08-2002 11:06									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Lung For some strange reason, when non-Australians think of Australian beer, they think of Fosters. I say strange, because Australians would rather drink from the Yarra than drink Fosters! VB and Tooheys, while good beers, do not compare to the mighty Coopers!!!

Fosters is the only Australian beer which is brewed in France (in licence). Visited the brewery in Champineulles a month ago.

	22-08-2002 11:15									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Lung *Snigger, snigger* Sorry, but all American opinions on beer are null and void owing to their reputation for having the world's worst beers

If you read any beer conosuers magazine then you will find that America is the worlds best place to drink beer. It doesn't matter what style or what flavor of beer you wish to drink because immigraints have brought it here and you will find it here. Locally brewed from locally grown produce. Czech Pilsners, English Nutbrowns, Scottish Brandy Wines, Irish Milk Stouts, French Bier de Guards, Austrian Wheats, German Outmeal brews and Heavy wheats. They are all here along with any other you can think of. No other country can brag of finding so many styles made locally by micro brews and sold fresh. The U.S. even has far more brewers then Germany so it doesn't matter which type of beer you like there is an American company making it from locally grown produce.

You won't find that in any European country, nor Australia, nor in Latin America, nor any where else. American brewing companies gather more gold metals at international bear festivals year after year then any other country so the idea that American beer sucks is just plain ignorant.

	22-08-2002 11:20									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Lung Actually, for i moment i vaguely remembered an American outdrinking me once, but i realised that he was actually Canadian I can't say the same for other Americans i have met

It doesn't matter Canadians are simply our future Northern States. When NAFTA is taken to it's logical, EU like, conclusion Canada will be part of the Union.

	22-08-2002 11:52									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia VB is one of the worst beers Ive ever had. If you like it then I can't take your other recommendations seriously I'm afraid...

VB is a mans beer so naturally you would not like it.

	22-08-2002 14:28									#39
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Newcastle is $7 a 6-pack or $4.50 a glass over at Buffalo Wild Wings & Wreck, aka BW3. Mmmm, I should go get a 12er.

The prices are about the same in Sweden, ~$1.50 for a bottle and ~$4.75 for a pint.

quote: Kamrat X, remember, Sagacious D lives in the land of kick ass ales. I'm sure if we skulked around Britain we could find som much better beers than Newcastle. Old Smith's Tadycaster is a good one, but hard to find.

Yes, I suppose youŽd find better beers if you go beer hunting in UK

	22-08-2002 21:19									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Timexwatch I've heard Sapporo is pretty good.

That depends on your defination of good. It's very strong, but when you can taste the alcohol in a beer, then you know the beer doesn't really have much flavor. I didn't like it. I've had a few Aisan beers I I haven't liked any of them. Europe, the USA, and Mexico make the best beers.

	22-08-2002 21:30									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin If you read any beer conosuers magazine then you will find that America is the worlds best place to drink beer. It doesn't matter what style or what flavor of beer you wish to drink because immigraints have brought it here and you will find it here. Locally brewed from locally grown produce. Czech Pilsners, English Nutbrowns, Scottish Brandy Wines, Irish Milk Stouts, French Bier de Guards, Austrian Wheats, German Outmeal brews and Heavy wheats. They are all here along with any other you can think of. No other country can brag of finding so many styles made locally by micro brews and sold fresh. The U.S. even has far more brewers then Germany so it doesn't matter which type of beer you like there is an American company making it from locally grown produce. You won't find that in any European country, nor Australia, nor in Latin America, nor any where else. American brewing companies gather more gold metals at international bear festivals year after year then any other country so the idea that American beer sucks is just plain ignorant.

The problem is that the US is a breadth over depth approach. They have many good beers, but no great beers.

	22-08-2002 21:52									#42
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The line between "good" and "great" is decided by (so called) yuppie connoisuers, not the average beer drinker. The average man just wants a brew that tastes decent and has a bit of bite to it. What more can one ask for?

And the notion that because something is mass produced means its lower quality is silly. It is true in some cases, but is by no means a rule.

	22-08-2002 22:02									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin The problem is that the US is a breadth over depth approach. They have many good beers, but no great beers.

That's not true at all. You just have to look. Dusseldörfer, made in Indiana, of all places, is a truely great pilsner. That's just off the top of my head.

	22-08-2002 22:12									#44
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I am not a big beer person, I'll stand corrected.

	22-08-2002 23:05									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey VB is a mans beer so naturally you would not like it.

Which man's beer? The only one in the world who can bear the revolting taste no doubt.

	22-08-2002 23:09									#46
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Ive had beers from all over the world, and I have never had as many great beers in any other country as I have had here in America. Those who say america has the worst beer in the world probably havent had anything better than Budweiser or Coors.



Here's to American beer!

	22-08-2002 23:12									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Lung Actually, she hates all of the artificial beers, such as VB and Tooheys. She seems to like any beer that isn't mass produced, even though she has no idea about such things. So, it seems that my wife, at least in part, agrees with you

Im not suprised, its hard to enjoy VB.

	23-08-2002 00:04									#48
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Bah! Non-Lithuanian beers

	23-08-2002 05:35									#49
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Who needs American or Australian beers when you can have Dutch (or Belgian) ones?

	23-08-2002 06:12									#50
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i usually don't like beers at all. but a frigid cold heineken, i can drink.

	23-08-2002 06:19									#51
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No beer here...

	23-08-2002 09:38									#52
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I heard Stella Artois is good, but I can't stand drinking it in those fruity glasses, so I don't.

	23-08-2002 11:48									#53
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quote: Who needs American or Australian beers when you can have Dutch (or Belgian) ones?

All those Belgian beers I've tried taste as if there were things in it which don't belong to beer (no, I don't complain about the ethanol ). Try German beer. Over 20 breweries in Cologne (used to be more, but modern economy ... )

	23-08-2002 13:48									#54
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i've been drinking jack daniels and coke all night, plus some cans of coors light. if i stop posting soon, its because i was arrested for being a little too friendly with the females while drunk

ugh, time to visit the toilet again :barf:

	23-08-2002 14:38									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i usually don't like beers at all. but a frigid cold heineken, i can drink.

frigid beer??

Timexwatch, Stella is for poncers hence the poncing glass

	23-08-2002 14:39									#56
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower i've been drinking jack daniels and coke all night, plus some cans of coors light. if i stop posting soon, its because i was arrested for being a little too friendly with the females while drunk ugh, time to visit the toilet again :barf:

Take it easy with the booze, HT

	23-08-2002 16:53									#57
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quote: frigid beer??

yeah. beer already tastes like piss, if it's cold enough, you don't have to taste anything but the fizz at all.

	23-08-2002 17:03									#58
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Heldenbrau Super Strenght now thats a beer

	23-08-2002 19:23									#59
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I dont think you can have a beer be more than about 8.5% alcohol and still have it taste good. Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout is 8.5% and one of my favorites, but any stronger and it wouldnt taste good.

	24-08-2002 00:02									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed yeah. beer already tastes like piss, if it's cold enough, you don't have to taste anything but the fizz at all.

It was more the 'frigid' word I noticed... in the meaning 'unresponsive sexually'...never mind it wasnŽt even fun to begin with...