23-08-2002 22:00									#1
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Hello,

The translation of civ3 to the Spanish is very bad, please to request that they review it.

Thanks

	23-08-2002 22:01									#2
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I don't think they will do that.

And what do you mean by bad, do they spell wrong?

	23-08-2002 22:05									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart I don't think they will do that. And what do you mean by bad, do they spell wrong?

Then serious one notifies very badly received for the Spaniards, who we perhaps do not pardon, and we do not buy PTW.

	23-08-2002 22:07									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart I don't think they will do that. And what do you mean by bad, do they spell wrong?

there are words badly used and things that are not understood.

	23-08-2002 22:53									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Alfonso there are words badly used and things that are not understood.

Please post an example!

	23-08-2002 23:45									#6
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yes, but if you do not understand the Spanish you will not include/understand what I say.

	23-08-2002 23:48									#7
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You know if you go to the Text folder and find the appropriate file, you'll be able to fix anything you don't like. I realize that you shouldn't have to, but if it really bothers you...

	23-08-2002 23:51									#8
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- there are own names in small letters
- ZAmpliar? It would have to be. Ampliar
- to reinforce It would have to be To fortify
- "Cesar de romanos"?? Cesar de los Romanos
- and phrases that the sense that they give him is not the one that it has

and much more…

Last edited by Alfonso on 24-08-2002 at 04:19

	23-08-2002 23:54									#9
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Thanks Willem, but I say it so that they know those of firaxis that in Spain this not pleasing civ3 by this.

	23-08-2002 23:56									#10
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You know if also it happens in the versions in German, Italian, French?

	24-08-2002 00:03									#11
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Alfonso: Can you change language to English in the game or are you "stuck with" Spanish?

	24-08-2002 00:08									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Hagbart Alfonso: Can you change language to English in the game or are you "stuck with" Spanish?

- Single it is in Spanish
- It took 9 months in arriving at Spain
- And on the patches, better we did not speak...

	24-08-2002 00:18									#13
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I doubt that Firaxis actually had anything to do with the translation into Espanol. That would most likely have been Infogrames doing.

	24-08-2002 00:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm I doubt that Firaxis actually had anything to do with the translation into Espanol. That would most likely have been Infogrames doing.

Infogrames has done it badly, I hope that Firaxis calls the attention to them.

	24-08-2002 00:40									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Alfonso yes, but if you do not understand the Spanish you will not include/understand what I say.

¿Cómo sabe usted que yo no entiendo el español?

	24-08-2002 00:44									#16
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When I visted spain for a couple a weeks almost exactly 2 years ago this week, I found that there about a dozen different forms of spanish and dialects there. Perhaps that's the problem I think.

	24-08-2002 00:46									#17
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Mis más sinceras disculpas, no solo lo hablas, además es muy bueno.

Pensé que seria poco apropiado ponerlo en castellano por la cantidad de Americanos presentes.

Espero no haberle dado mal sentido a la frase, ya que mi Inglés es muy malo.

	24-08-2002 00:50									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 When I visted spain for a couple a weeks almost exactly 2 years ago this week, I found that there about a dozen different forms of spanish and dialects there. Perhaps that's the problem I think.

No, in this case the problem is not that, but thought well, you are right in that.

	24-08-2002 00:56									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Alfonso Mis más sinceras disculpas, no solo lo hablas, además es muy bueno. Pensé que seria poco apropiado ponerlo en castellano por la cantidad de Americanos presentes. Espero no haberle dado mal sentido a la frase, ya que mi Inglés es muy malo.

I'm not that good at Spanish (Mexican Spanish BTW), but I can say this does not look right.

	24-08-2002 00:56									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Alfonso Mis más sinceras disculpas, no solo lo hablas, además es muy bueno.

Gracias para usted palabras amables.

quote: Pensé que seria poco apropiado ponerlo en castellano por la cantidad de Americanos presentes.

La mayoría de nosotros aprecia aprender más acerca de otra cultura de país e idioma.

quote: Espero no haberle dado mal sentido a la frase, ya que mi Inglés es muy malo.

El sentimiento es mutuo desde que mi español no es muy bueno.

	24-08-2002 00:59									#21
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I think Alfonso has a valid complaint here. The grammar should be correct, whatever the language. From what he says, it's like Spanish Civ III has "All your base are belong to us" in it. That's very poor.

	24-08-2002 01:07									#22
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quote: Originally posted by dunk I think Alfonso has a valid complaint here. The grammar should be correct, whatever the language. From what he says, it's like Spanish Civ III has "All your base are belong to us" in it. That's very poor.

Yes, I agree. It doesn't look right.

	24-08-2002 01:08									#23
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The same happens with translated movies, etc... Try the original version, learn languages is always good.

	24-08-2002 01:09									#24
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perhaps Firaxis would have to consider that the game must be translated and to give more facilities, since there are words that leave the boxes or they do not fit well

	24-08-2002 01:19									#25
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Disorder examples:

	24-08-2002 01:27									#26
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That's even worse than the grammar being poor.

	24-08-2002 02:54									#27
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This really should be fixed, yes. The windows look horrible and the grammar is poor at best.

I wish I knew where to direct a complaint. Odds are very good that Firaxis didn't translate the game... but whoever did did a real hack-job with the code. Bad form.

	24-08-2002 03:32									#28
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Infogrames is responsible for translating the game. Obviously, they did a very poor job. There are always going to be minor mistakes and differences, but civ3 seems to be a bit half-assed.

	24-08-2002 03:43									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 When I visted spain for a couple a weeks almost exactly 2 years ago this week, I found that there about a dozen different forms of spanish and dialects there. Perhaps that's the problem I think.

Well, though that's true (there are some different languages in Spain), actually, everybody speaks Spanish. In some regions, people also speaks another language (Catalan, Basque, Galician...), but there's an official language in the whole country that absolutely everybody knows.
Infogrames should work on a correct translation... Anything but that it's making of a game a ridiculous game in that country (Spain, in this case).

	24-08-2002 03:46									#30
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Aren't there 3 official languages in Spain.
Catalan, Basque and Spanish?

And that messup with Ciudad Unidad es muy horrible

And the formatting in the bottom left is disgusting


As with the upper right.

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Perhaps it is Firaxis' fault as well, they may have to program larger boxes.... although on closer inspection, if they formatted things a bit to la izquierda or la derecha (left or right), they would fit.

A muy peor job