24-08-2002 11:47									#1
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To me it seems as the elections and change of goverment slows down the game play. I feel that at least two month/goverment would speed up things.

	24-08-2002 12:56									#2
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I feel there's a problem with this :
Being a member of the government is an important involvement, even for minor ministers. Doing it one month isn't always easy (several ministers already resigned mid-term), doing it 2 months becomes really tiring.
Ninot and myself are happy retirees after 2 months, and Uber was very reluctant to go for a 3rd term. I think it'll be hard to find people who'll be able to keep up the work for 2 months, esp. with school coming again.

Rather than making term longer, I suggest e make the transition smoother and not slowing. Unorthodox's suggestions are a good idea in this direction.

	24-08-2002 13:27									#3
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I can see your point but if ther are only done some turns 6 times a month then the game will last for a very long time...(unless the war against France fails totaly).

	24-08-2002 16:12									#4
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I agree, the game is moving slowly, but two months, well that is alot.

I wonder if we could do this maybe. Its pretty simple, after a month of the term, each minister can choose if they wish to stay on for another month. Also, they can choose to step down without any hash feelings. This could speed the game up a bit by (hopefully) shortining up the time its takes for elections.

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	24-08-2002 17:16									#5
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i'm completely against this
two months is way too long between elections
i'd be getting pretty sick of my job after two months - even in the Civ2 game, which is way, way less complicated.

and plus, it hits at the democratic foundations of the game.

i support unorthodox's proposals.
it'll fix the problems, and won't create new ones.

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	24-08-2002 17:24									#6
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I don't know if I could commit to two months at a time.

	24-08-2002 18:06									#7
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hmmm...everything I would say has already been said by everyone else

	24-08-2002 23:38									#8
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I would say no at this time. Only if things drasticly change in the game would I consider this.

	25-08-2002 00:39									#9
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I feel that a month is pretty short -- the new government is just getting into full swing, and we're already 1/4th done! On the other hand, I doubt most people could do it for a full month, and I've got a hunch that if we ever wound up with a bad government, a month would seem like much longer than it seems short while we've got a good government.

-- adaMada

	25-08-2002 00:52									#10
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The next transition should be faster. We'll have more people running for positions too when they remember how to juggle school and the internet.

	25-08-2002 01:09									#11
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Yea, and I'm not blaming anyone for the transition time. It just seems like it would be nice to have the governments around longer, but I agree that it's impossible. Hard enough to find people for positions as it is...

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	25-08-2002 03:49									#12
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	25-08-2002 04:13									#13
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Id rather just see us eliminate term limits Then let the people have their say every month, but the good ministers stay as long as they are supported.

Besides with longer terms, we'd have more resignations.

	25-08-2002 04:19									#14
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quote: Originally posted by wervdon Id rather just see us eliminate term limits Then let the people have their say every month, but the good ministers stay as long as they are supported.

Uber 1 more term

	25-08-2002 04:24									#15
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No. No. No.

Oh, and did I mention, NO.

	25-08-2002 05:09									#16
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NO

If it was changed there would be no way in hell I'd ever run for anything again. At present, I fully intend to run for other positions besides President in future terms, but if there was this change, then count out one more sucka who was willing to put some time into this.

And we are conspicuously low on suckas right now.

	25-08-2002 06:01									#17
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One more voice on the NO to two months and the YES to eliminating term limits.

	29-08-2002 22:41									#18
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No and no again. Thrice times No!

	29-08-2002 23:09									#19
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no @ 2 month terms.

yes @ unlimited terms.

	30-08-2002 03:34									#20
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I have to say no to two months.

	30-08-2002 10:44									#21
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No to two months

and

Yes to Keep term limits.

	01-09-2002 00:46									#22
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hi ,

what about lets say 6 weeks , ..

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	02-09-2002 10:57									#23
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , what about lets say 6 weeks , .. have a nice day

That can lead to confusing election dates.

	02-09-2002 12:32									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse That can lead to confusing election dates.

hi ,

, ...

okay we start on the 15/09 , go to 30/10 , 15/12 , 31/01 , etc ,...... it cant be that hard , .....

we could always go for 8 weeks , .....

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	02-09-2002 12:41									#25
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panag, we already have a problem getting good people to run. No one complains the terms are too short (except theViking, who doesn't have an office).

Anything that would discourage good leaders like Trip, SirRalph, and Spiffor (to name a few) from returning would not be a good idea.

	02-09-2002 12:42									#26
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We should have a poll on this .

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither panag, we already have a problem getting good people to run. No one complains the terms are too short (except theViking, who doesn't have an office). Anything that would discourage good leaders like Trip, SirRalph, and Spiffor (to name a few) from returning would not be a good idea.

hi ,

, okay , what to they feel about it , ....

on one side we have people who dont want to hold elections every month and have the electees stay a bit longer , on the other side people who want to work only one month , .....

so , what should be done then , ...

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	02-09-2002 13:38									#28
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Leave it at one month.

	02-09-2002 13:41									#29
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Leave it at one month.

hi ,

its a bit strange that only a couple people take part in this thread , we should hear more from the people who have worked before , or are now working in the government , ...

4 weeks seems a bit short to achieve some goals , two month might be to long , 6 weeks might be fine , ....

we need to brainstorm a bit further , ...

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	02-09-2002 13:44									#30
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1 month is 40 or 50 turns of the game, if we get our act together. I think that is enough.