26-08-2002 08:59									#31
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   Originally posted by Kramerman 
Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) 
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce 
Cash: $120 
Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 

Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman 

Stockpile: 
0 food 
0 shields 
4 commerce 


Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce 
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $44 each (New D:S=28:57+2= $47 ) 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $56 each (New D:S = 20/33+1= $59) 
Sell 3 of 4 commerce @ $40 (New D:S = 20/44+3= $43) 

	26-08-2002 19:38									#32
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And here we go...........

quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb code: House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco Turn #: 003 Holdings: House Ghengis: "Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), "Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), "Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle) Leased from adaMada: 005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd) Leased from civman2000: 008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd) Leased from UnOrthOdOx: 013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 014 Termina NE2 (jungle) Stockpile: GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce Cash: $166 Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis Last turn's completed trades: GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx .......Net cash flow = -$34 --- Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49) Pay civman2000 $175 rent Pay adaMada $110 rent Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Proposed Deal Changes(ALL Proposed Deals NOT changed are still offered):
Sell 7 commerce @ $39 (D:S 20/50 =$40) and dropping

	26-08-2002 20:40									#33
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Official announcement by your Market Assessor

The shopkeep contract is regarded INVALID.

For the reasons see my post in the thread "main thread and directory" regarding this contract.

I suggest that all commerce delivered against this contract are now supposed to be sold on the market at $40,- (which by the way may appear to be to high, so watch out).

	26-08-2002 20:43									#34
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This is turning out like a game of monopoly with my family...

When does this close? What if they don't get back in time to see this announcement? More stockpile?

	26-08-2002 20:48									#35
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uh oh. do you know what this introduction of new commerce is going to do?

* Epistax expects commerce at $20 or less

	26-08-2002 21:31									#36
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx This is turning out like a game of monopoly with my family... When does this close? What if they don't get back in time to see this announcement? More stockpile?

We will have to find a way out of this but in a structured way and not mid-turn. Ghengis and others already proposed good solutions.

	26-08-2002 21:33									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Epistax uh oh. do you know what this introduction of new commerce is going to do? * Epistax expects commerce at $20 or less

I predicted 1$ for all commodities that have more supply (by the nobles) than demand and can not (no longer) be stockpiled. We just have to find a solution for this.

	26-08-2002 23:30									#38
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Can Frances please give us a post with the EXACT amount of time left in the trading session. That way I can figure out when it ends based on his post's "post time".

	27-08-2002 01:09									#39
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Can Frances please give us a post with the EXACT amount of time left in the trading session. That way I can figure out when it ends based on his post's "post time".

At your service:
Nog 12 uur 47 minuten te gaan, geloof ik

Edit: Oops, was chatting with a dutch guy and used the wrong language. Will try again:

12 hours 47 minutes to go (I think).

	27-08-2002 01:16									#40
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Had better adapt my prices. Almost forgot

Estate of Franses
Turn #: 003
Holdings: Tile 002, NE Apolyton, Bonus Grassland (mine, rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $342
Debt: -$1100 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: 2 of ? build

Administered by: Franses

Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shield, 1 commerce
---
Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $43 each (New D:S=28:63 = $44 )
Sell 0 of 2 shields (New D:S=20:34 = $59 )
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $39 (New D:S= 20:50 = $40 )
Hire 2 labourers for $30 each. (new D:S=4/14=$29)

	27-08-2002 01:54									#41
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Proposed deal: Pay back $175 of the loan (rent money from GF), leaving $650.

	27-08-2002 05:13									#42
	Put an end to popups!

YOU DO NOT EDIT YOUR PRICES IN YOUR ORIGINAL BIDS

You quote your original bid and post updated proposals underneath it. Several of you have changed your bids in your original posts and your going to stuck with the original price you put there as I update my market bid continuously as posts are made. I DON'T go back and see if you changed your bid amount.

You have been warned.

	27-08-2002 06:27									#43
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code:

Epistan Plantation, Turn 3.  Admin: Epistax
+Update+
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $40/ea
     1 Comm  @ $35/ea
Buying:
     2 Shld  @ $59/ea
     2 Labr  @ $29/ea
D/S:
     Food: 28/63    = $44
     Shld: 20/34    = $59
     Comm: 20/50+1    = $39
     Labr: 4/14     = $29
Predicted Expenses|Income: 176|115 = -$61

	27-08-2002 06:42									#44
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code:
   Originally posted by Kramerman 
Kramerman's Brothel Ranch 
Turn #: 003 
Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) 
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce 
Cash: $120 
Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) 

Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman 

Stockpile: 
0 food 
0 shields 
4 commerce 


Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
--- 
Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce 
--- 

Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $55 each 
Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $35 

	27-08-2002 08:04									#45
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Updated orders

code:

Spiffor's Woodworks, Turn 3.  Admin: Spiffor
Holdings: Tile 003b, W Apolyton, 1/2/1
Stockpile: 0 food    1 shields    0 commerce
Production:  1 food      2 shields      1 commerce

Current Cash: $195      Debt: -$970 (Interest @ turn 15)
Selling:
     1 Food  @ $40/ea
     3 Shields @ $55/ea
     1 Comm  @ $35

Unchanged D/S:
     Food: 28/63    = $44
     Shld: 20/34    = $59
     Comm: 20/51    = $39
     Labr: 4/14     = $29

Pay off $195 of the debt
Predicted Expenses|Income: 185|195 = -$10

	27-08-2002 08:34									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Kramerman code: Originally posted by Kramerman Kramerman's Brothel Ranch Turn #: 003 Holdings: Tile 029, SW BHQ, Grassland (mine, river, road) Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 4 commerce Cash: $120 Debt: -$1500 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) Administered by: Pimp Daddy Kman Stockpile: 0 food 0 shields 4 commerce Last turn's completed trades: 0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce --- Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $55 each Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $35

Edit: I just want to go ahaead and use my $120 to atrat paying off my debt.
So pay off $120 of debt.
predicted income: $240

	27-08-2002 08:42									#47
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

And here we go some more...........

quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb code: House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco Turn #: 003 Holdings: House Ghengis: "Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), "Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), "Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle) Leased from adaMada: 005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd) Leased from civman2000: 008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd) Leased from UnOrthOdOx: 013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 014 Termina NE2 (jungle) Stockpile: GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce Cash: $166 Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis Last turn's completed trades: GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx .......Net cash flow = -$34 --- Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49) Pay civman2000 $175 rent Pay adaMada $110 rent Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Proposed Deal Changes(ALL Proposed Deals NOT changed are still offered):
Sell 7 commerce @ $34 (D:S 20/50 =$40) and dropping

	27-08-2002 08:51									#48
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quote: Dude Ranch Turn #: 003 Holdings: 010 Termina NE (mined grass rd) Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce Cash: $)0 Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 16 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: None Administered by: Duddha Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 2 of 2 food @ $40 each Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $40 each

Did I do this right?

	27-08-2002 08:54									#49
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Duddha if it is your first post for the turn, you need to update the numbers


Food: 28/65 = $44
Shld: 20/34 = $59
Comm: 20/52 = $38
Labr: 4/14 = $29



I am not sure if that comm should be 52 or 51. depends on if GF screwed up or not.

EDIT: If these numbers are correct, you must lower your commerce selling rate or else it wont sell.

	27-08-2002 08:58									#50
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code:

Epistan Plantation, Turn 3.  Admin: Epistax
+Update+
Selling:
     2 Food  @ $39/ea
     1 Comm  @ $34/ea
Buying:
     2 Shld  @ $59/ea
     2 Labr  @ $29/ea

	27-08-2002 09:46									#51
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither OK. Assume no sale last turn. Food rotted. My fault, but we had a good feast. code: The Mustang Ranch [001], Turn 3. notyoueither Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shield, 4 commerce Cash $0 Dept: -$1000 ___ Production this turn: 2 food, 2 Commerce ---- Deals: Sell 2 of 2Food @ $44 each Have 0 Shld @ Sell 3 of 6 Comm @ $65 each ---- New D/S: Food: 28/56+2 = $48 Comm: 20/23+3 = $77 Did I get the numbers right? Let me know and I'll edit. Can I come back later and adjust selling price offered?

Update:
Sell 6 of 6 Comm @ $33 each

Sell 2 of 2 Food @ $39 each

New Comm DS: 20/52+3 $36

	27-08-2002 10:10									#52
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UPDATE

code:
Proposed Deals: 

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $35 each 
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $50 each 
Sell 3 of 6 commerce @ $30 

	27-08-2002 11:04									#53
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When will the turn end precisely ?

	27-08-2002 11:12									#54
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quote: Turn 3 closes at august 27, 10.00 hour [GMT time]

Very soon.

	27-08-2002 11:54									#55
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UPDATE
Estate of Franses
Turn #: 003
Holdings: Tile 002, NE Apolyton, Bonus Grassland (mine, rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $342
Debt: -$1100 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: 2 of ? build

Administered by: Franses

Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shield, 1 commerce
---
Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $42 each (current D:S=28:65 = $43 )
Sell 0 of 2 shields @65 (Current D:S=20:34 = $59 )
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $36 (Current D:S= 20:54 = $37 )
Hire 2 labourers for $30 each. (Current D:S=4/14=$29)

	27-08-2002 11:54									#56
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Turn 3 closes in 2 hours and a couple of minutes.

	27-08-2002 13:44									#57
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb code: Estate of Kloreep Turn #: 003 Holdings: 006 Apolyton NW11 (mined grass rd) Stockpile: 0 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce Cash: $298 Debt: -$1400 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? Administered by: GhengisFarb Last turn's completed trades: NONE ..........Total Income for Turn =$0 --- Production this turn: 2 food, 2 shields, 1 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 2 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) Sell 4 shields @ $61 (D:S 20/30 (25+1)=$66) Sell 2 Commerce towards Shopkeep contract at $40 (5/14)

Sell 2 commerce at $39 (D:S 20/31 = $37)
Sell 2 food at $43 (D:S 28/30 = $43)

	27-08-2002 13:45									#58
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb code: House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco Turn #: 003 Holdings: House Ghengis: "Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), "Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), "Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle) Leased from adaMada: 005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd) Leased from civman2000: 008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd) Leased from UnOrthOdOx: 013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 014 Termina NE2 (jungle) Stockpile: GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 0 shields, 2 commerce adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce Cash: $166 Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 13 turns remaining on grace period) Buildings: (3 of ?) Building? Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis Last turn's completed trades: GhengisFarb hired 3 labor at $44 GhengisFarb sold 5 food at $44 GhengisFarb paid civman2001 $175 GhengisFarb received $53 from UnOrthOdOx .......Net cash flow = -$34 --- Production this turn: 9 food, 3 shields, 3 commerce --- Proposed Deals: Sell 9 food @ $44 (D:S 28/56 (47+9)=$50) Sell 1 shield @ $65 (D:S 20/26 (25+1)=$76) Sell 7 commerce @ $46 (D:S 20/41 (34+7)=$49) Pay civman2000 $175 rent Pay adaMada $110 rent Pay UnOrthOdOx $125 rent

Sell 0 commerce (D:S 20/24 $42)
Sell 9 food at $43 (D:S 28/30 = $43)

	27-08-2002 13:51									#59
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What you do is a valid move but are you sure you want to expose this bug so clearly?

	27-08-2002 13:54									#60
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Turn 3 is closed

Turn 4 is postponed for some time (I had prepared the market assessment for it. Even with a new lay-out and all but it was not to be)

It was decided to postpone turn 4 until we agree on the solution to a number of problems that surfaced during the first turns. For more information see the thread Main thread and directory

I will leave in 2 hours or so and be off for about 12 hours, maybe even till tomorrow. See you then.

Last edited by Franses on 27-08-2002 at 14:05